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It’s my hope to see unity and cohesion is the Lemmy-verse. Looks like [email protected] has over 39k subscribers.

Is there a way that this same conversation can “merge” with that one so that this one can be archived there?

How are Lemmy instances coping with two great ideas that might have come up at the same time but one has a lot more traction?

And true story: I’m not trying to start anything. I’m sincerely trying to promote Lemmy and perfect it — this would just be sanding the edges?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

to see unity and cohesion [in] the Lemmy-verse

Pass. It's a a feature, not a bug.

Instead of one community becoming completely dominant on a topic, there's another one close on its heels should anything happen to the first.

And if I subscribe to both, who cares which a particular post comes from? Just scroll down the feed, read a post if it looks interesting, ignore if it doesn't. Which community it originates from doesn't matter.

I wonder if the people who push for one community per topic across all the Fediverse are just extreme tidiness types who get a kick out of seeing everything in orderly little boxes. Trying to Marie Kondo a decentralized internet forum, that way lies madness.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One option is them being tied together while remaining separate. Like have the clients all treat them as one channel on the client side, with them still all being separate on the server end.

I think the main problem people want dealt with is when they are in 7 of the same community accross different servers and someone cross posts something to all 7 of them. I don't know if we'll ever be able to solve that problem on the user end, like discouraging cross posts or whatever, but there could be a way that posting to one automatically and invisibly crossposts to all the channels that are deemed "like" that one. Whether communities could have tags that align with post tags, or something like that. I don't know. But it sucks that right now the option is either pick one and deal with missing out on anything not cross posted, or pick a few and deal with all the things you see multiple times.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I don't know if we'll ever be able to solve that problem on the user end.

If I see a cross-post, I just block the user. Cross-posters are not the type of people I will miss anyway. Solves the problem for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It would be annoying to see repeat posts, this is people's main complaint. In my opinion this could be fixed with a tab system that takes you between comments sections of posts of the same URL on different instances.

This feels like the best of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I completely understand your perspective and align with it, but people need to start thinking about these discussions when they push for more mass adoption and expanding the user base. Lemmy is niche; if people want to have individuals join who aren't very tech savvy, they need to consider why people are asking questions such as OP's. The "if you don't like it then leave" mentality cannot coincide with "we need more users and engagement". The platform doesn't necessarily need to change, but it needs to learn to be inclusive of those who are used to centralized platforms like Reddit and make accommodations or compromises. Otherwise Lemmy will not grow. If not growing is the consensus, that's fine, but Lemmy needs to make it's mind up first of what it wants to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You get me. Yes — exactly.

I can barely figure all this out and my goal is exactly where you are talking about — to make adopting Lemmy as easy as possible to attract as many users away from the corporate social media as possible.

I want all corporate social media flat lined.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I suppose that I can personally tolerate same-theme communities across multiple instances. I feel like I was a late arrival at Reddit and when I grasped it’s potential, it became an important source of information, entertainment and community for me. Then it imploded.

But a lot of people are still over there and I guess I hope to see it flatlined completely.

So I hope that Lemmy can be as easy to use as possible.

But this thread has persuaded me that redundant groups are healthy. I just hope new users come here and abandon all corporate social media.