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For me it's definitely the Dark Tower, but the Golden Compas was also a huge letdown.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'd say Foundation, but the show has been so far away from the books since literally episode 1 that the name might as well be a coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree but a direct adaptation of the books would not make a good TV show.

The books are a series of vignettes spaced decades apart with no continuing characters and each is a separate short story. While they work in the written form, they would not on the screen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It could be done as a series of vignettes, for example, as 6 episode series, with each series centred around each crisis. That would give you 4-5 hours - or 2.5 Mrs Doubtfires - to do what Asimov does in around 60 pages (depending on crisis).

I don't understand the argument that this is impossible to do, pretty much every film you will have ever seen will have had a shorter runtime than 5 hours, and handled all aspects of character introduction, motivation, conflict, growth, and resolution, within than time too.

I am not saying it has to be identical or a word for word adaptation - I have no issues what so ever with gender swapping Hardin - but as another poster points out, having Seldon live on (other than as recordings getting increasingly divorced from reality) directly rejects the core premise of the book, which is a refutation of the great man hypothesis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I think the closest you get is B5's Deconstruction of Falling Stars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t have Apple TV, and I was irritated that I’d be missing Foundation. The more I hear about it, though, the less irritated I am.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I tried to watch Foundation, mostly because Asimov is one of those writers whose style I can't stand in his actual books (his characterization is really flat--you could tell he was far more interested in his ideas and the characters were just pawns on a stage), and I've had a few cases where books I couldn't finish were very watchable on screen. Also, I was following Jared Harris from the Expanse to Foundation in the hopes of seeing something awesome.

But what I saw, and what I remembered from the books, didn't add up. Nor did it suck me in on its own merits, like some other adaptations have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The first two episodes are the most gorgeous sci-fi tv production I've ever seen. Beyond that it's a bit shakier but it's definitely watchable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They very much lampshade that with the whole outliers thing. Events spin off in wildly different directions.

If you want a direct translation of the books, no dice, but damn the shit they've pulled out of whole cloth with the Cleons is amazeballs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Cleons is literally the only reason I continue to watch the show.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Did some good stuff with Riose as well.

Not looking forward to them fucking up The Mule tho :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It feels more like an addition than an adaptation (it isn't, but it's the only perspective in which the show can be good). I'm a big fan of the books, and I'm also enjoying the show so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The show is so well done I don't even mind that it's not like the books

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Even by itself, the show makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From the first season I thought the Trantor stuff was awesome but the Terminus stuff sucked. Never have I had a show where I was more divided.

I was this close to skipping the Terminus stuff, I just couldn't give a shit about it and was constantly waiting to see Trantor and the beefcake to do some boss shit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

i mean lee pace fighting ninjas completely naked is a helluva plus, ya gotta admit.