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This isn't meant to start a war in the comments.

I have been thinking... Platforms that advertise encryption and unmatched privacy have almost always been used by bad actors that ruin it for everyone else. This leads to some sort of middle ground being set up that ends up being further from privacy than we'd like it to be.

I see the benefits of both situations, and am left wondering if we can even survive as a society if we were to have absolute privacy.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Edit:

I'm asking how we can navigate this conundrum in order to reach a common ground where we do NOT have to give up our precious privacy in exchange for security.

Nothing else. I'm sorry if my post didn't reflect that.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

have almost always been used by bad actors that ruin it for everyone else.

...So what? You're suggesting that, because some people misuse a right in an illegal way, that the right should be taken from everyone. It's the equivalent of saying that because some people use speech to incite violence, the right to free speech should be taken. I completely reject that view.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're suggesting that, because some people misuse a right in an illegal way, that the right should be taken from everyone.

I'm not. I'm asking how we can navigate this conundrum in order to reach a common ground where we do NOT have to give up our precious privacy in exchange for security.

I'm sorry if my post didn't reflect this. I'll update it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not. I'm asking how we can navigate this conundrum in order to reach a common ground where we do NOT have to give up our precious privacy in exchange for security.

That's easy. You tell the people who want you to give up your right to privacy to go fuck themselves. The common ground is when they go fuck themselves, problem solved.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's great in an ideal world, but it's not realistic. 😅

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's equally unrealistic to give up all of your privacy in the name of security. Not everything can be a compromise, the opponent will fight with everything they have to take your right to privacy, if you want any privacy at all you need to fight every attempt.

When you give up your privacy in the name of security you end up with neither.