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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also might be the most unethical coffee in the world too.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I read once that a major reason the coffee is supposed to be good, is that the animals (in the wild) tend to seek out the ripest, healthiest coffee beans to eat. They're abundant (prior to human intervention), so why settle for less?

But then we cage them and force-feed them whatever, so they're just medium (or low) quality beans to start with. So even if you look past the cruelty, it's not even the quality of coffee the reputation suggests.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Iirc correctly the monkey cats ( or however they are called ) actually just prefer a specific coffee plant that is more rarely used as the ones used for the vast amount of coffee in the world ( e.g. robusta or arabica). However, if the beans of this variation are used directly, it tastes exactly the same. There is a scientific paper about this. Long story short: people are drinking shat out coffee for no good reason. What is even worse, it is tried to hold these monkey cats in cages to produce more of this coffee. Again for no good reason. But people fall for the marketing pr gang that the coffee is handpicked by those animals, digested and shat out and they would not go for "yeah we need just to use another plant" because it wouldn't be so exklusive anymore...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What type of bean? I'd love to try an ethical roast of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Can you remember anything about the paper? Authors, journals, anything?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aha da hat wohl noch jemand methodisch inkorrekt gehört, wollte gerade genau das gleiche schreiben ^^

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? Force feeding caged animals to shit coffee beans isn't ethical?