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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, well, here they don't. Currently, building from new costs about 3200€/m^2^, provided you own the ground already.

Average rent for a newly built, low energy appartment with fibre to the home and covered parking including a wallbox (so, basically the optimum you could build with a high rent in mind) around here is about 9 to 10€/m^2^. So that's 26 years before the building is paid off and that does not include interest for a loan or upkeep for the building. With 4 percent of interest which seems to be the lower end of the market right now I'd never break even.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Buying here is cheaper (1600 per sq meter in the commie blocks part of the city) and rent is about the same. Outside of those blocks you'd usually get copper and no real insulation, with street parking. A brand new apartment in a nice place might net you 15-20 eur per square meter.

Of course, I live in the ass end of Europe where wages are half of what they are in the west so it makes sense our rents, food costs, etc are higher. The peasants shouldn't have too much to their names.

Tenants also pay any loans associated with the apartment building repairs, or the repair fund collection, not by law but because apartments are in demand and tenants are not. The law actually says it's the responsiblity of the owner, but there's literally nothing saying that responsibility can't be shifted.