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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

The scariest part of this recent news is that TM Signal seem(ed) to be interoperable. People using TM Signal could interact with actual Signal users. How are you to know whether or not your groups have people using bastardized versions of Signal? Are things like Session interoperable with Signal?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even then, nothing stops the client from lying to the server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's the point of digitally signing the app, to ensure its authenticity and integrity. TM and others wouldn't be able to resign the modified app with the Signal Foundation signature.

EDIT: Yeah after thinking more about it it's not a trivial problem, as you need to assume that the endpoint is inherently untrusted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's actually possible in a way:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SafetyNet

But you necessarily need to limit the devices and operating systems that are allowed. No custom ROMs, no root access, etc.

It's bullshit and breaks open computing as a concept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Not to mention that a device that would pass Play Integrity is precisely the device I wouldn't ever consider doing anything private on. Which would defeat the whole point of Signal. It's already bad enough that it's so desktop-unfriendly while much fewer phones than computers that can run non-privacy-invasive OSes than computers...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Isn't that just delegating trust to a third party, e.g. here Google? It's not as if Google was somehow immune to 0 days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Fuck Safetynet and Play Integrity.