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I'm not surprised.
The name of the game here is to destroy America, not build it up. (Russia wants a USSR-style fall of America. The Cold War never ended for them.) And Trump wants to stay out of jail. Everything you see Trump or his admin doing can be attributed to those two things. Destroying America, or keeping himself out of Jail.
Eh, I think it's more that Trump wants attention. The CHIPS act is bad because Biden gets credit for it, not Trump. Tariffs are good because Trump gets to force other countries to come to the US to negotiate with him. Whether the deal at the end is good or bad is irrelevant, what matters is that Trump's name is in the news and attached to those deals.
Trump isn't going to jail, so I highly doubt he cares much about avoiding it. He mostly cares about people talking about him, and it's working.
I think Musk is the same way, but he does seem to care about the tech his name is attached to as well. So that's likely to cause huge issues soon as Musk and Trump butt heads more and more.
As a European I fully support comrade Trump in his successful endeavor of destroying the imperialist and fascist US state.
Don't talk nonsense. Trump will destroy America and take Europe down the same path if he gets the chance.
The breakdown of trust in the Atlantic alliance alone is one of the worst things that could have happened to both sides and this is just the beginning. They're going to fuck themselves and they're going to fuck us in the process.
I hope our EU government get some sense and stop acting like the vasals they are.
This could be the push we need.
The US never were our friends and this 'alliance' is nothing more than being in their sphere of influence and serving their interests. Bcs they are losing power in the world they are now canibalising their own side.
Who said 'there will be no more Nordstream'?
And then in a pure act of terror blew it up forcing us to buy 8x more expensive US fracking gas.
Not one peep from our sell-out leaders.
We needed to drop this horrible country long time ago, regardless of Trump.
The EU is not as detached from global economics as you seem to believe it is. The fall of the US will have world wide implications, for many generations.
I never said that, but it needs to be done.
We need to cut ties before they drag us down further.
Our economy is already going to shit with the high energy prices caused by them blowing up Nordstream.
And that was under Genocide Joe.
I would rather have an incompetent moron in charge of the country seeing us as vasals since forever.
And if it's up to them they will gladly see us all at war again like WW2.
Their competition destroying themselves while they benefit and sell arms.
Fuck that whole country
Do you have the phrase "out of the frying pan and into the fire" in Europe?
that doesn't apply.
It's better to distance ourselves from them before we get caught in their dumpster fire and also get burned.
And how do you plan on doing that today? You are also delusional like Trump if you think you can just cut ties and happily watch US go up in flames. That simply isn't gonna happen, certainly not before his current term ends.
It can happen pretty fast, look what Russia did with those sactions.
The EU, their neighbour, simply got replaced.
We can certainly do the same with the US.
The USSR was not thoroughly embedded in the world economies. Nor did it have as staunch of allies in major positions in EU government as the US does today. Don't get me wrong, despite being in the US, I do think that countries divesting and becoming less dependent upon a slave state, like the US, is a good thing. However, as the "Great Recession" demonstrated, EU economies are very much entangled with the US economy, with few lessons seeming to have been learned in the last decade and a half.
Sure, the US might be more impacted, but the EU will not be unscathed, if there isn't more effort to decouple and ditch neoliberal policies. That kind of stuff can't happen overnight.
I think you accidentally blockquoted the whole thing. Probably can fix by adding a new line after each quote block.
I'd say, maybe, oversimplified. Until the later stages, no country was as extremely embedded in global economies as has occurred between the late 20th century and now. The soviets did embed themselves in places where they saw possible advantage over the West, saw opportunity for vassal states, and engaged in some of the aul' imperialism. Even in Eastern Europe, it wasn't as embedded as the US economy has become at this point. Greater levels of industrialization and not being dependent on high tech sectors that are largely US-controlled, as well as proximity to the EU made the economic stagnation easier to weather.
Sorry. I had it framed in my head as a comparison between the breaking up of the USSR and potential dissolution of the US.
As someone living in the US, with a hard lean into anarchism, I absolutely agree with all of that. Allowing the US, with its push for unfettered, neoliberal capitalism to dig itself in and influence policy has caused extraordinary harm. Since the fall of the USSR, economic decision-makers in the US have seen no reason to improve the lives of the average citizen nor reasons not to intentionally bleed them dry for profit.
If you don't root out neoliberalism in Europe, the same will happen there (look at the UK).
Yes the Soviets mostly traded with their sphere and they are/were probably the most autarkic state in the world but even at the height of the cold war, they kept trading with the US for example.
Business over politics.
The situation in Europe could get as bad as in the US and worse.
Plenty of countries where it's difficult to keep the extreme right out of power.
I don't see how it can be stopped.
The 'sanctions' that massively backfired are destroying our economy. We know what that led to in the 30's.
And the insane governments and their media are determined to send the kids off to the eastern front again sice they have their scapegoat.
Could be that soon you may consider yourself in the better position where Europe is getting destroyed in full on war while you are far away.
Anyway, I wish us both good luck fir the bleak future.