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Trump promised to raid Chicago on Tuesday yet I have seen a single news story about this since it was first brought up Sunday. It is now Wednesday. So did they do it or was it just more hot air from Trump and co?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Everything these idiots say publicly is bluster. They don't have the resources for these deportations they are planning. There aren't enough ice agents in the entire country to clear out the undocumented immigrants in one city. It's illegal for the military to assist. It's illegal for them to try to force local PD or sheriff's to assist.

Edit: There are around 20,000 border and ICE agents. Most of those are assigned to the southwest border. The NYPD has 33,000 officers, Chicago PD has about 14,000, LAPD 9,0000. Even if you somehow got 10,000 of those border and ICE agents in one city without hurting border operations, it would take them years to find and deport all the undocumented immigrants in just one city.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And that is exactly why they'll be recruiting Red Shirts. Been saying this for years.

Just a month or so ago Steve Bannon said on his podcast that there aren't enough boots and they would have to draw on "local volunteers" to fill the gaps.

Do what that information as you will. As for me and my house, I'm armed and trained. Scared shitless, but I will shoot back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You need to understand that none of the people in power actually want this stuff. It's a waste of tax dollars and undocumented immigrants keep wages low for the robber barons. This is all performative. Think of it like a magic show, they want people looking at the card they are waiving around while the other hand picks our pockets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I am well aware. But you can see how this turns into an excuse for Red Shirts, Committees of Public Safety and the like?

"We just can't keep this under control! Sign up at your local MAGA office to help save the country!"

This shit is nearly as old as human civilization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It's totally possible. Like, historically the parallels are spooky.

I don't have a good feel for the likelihood yet, too early. We may end up with camps, we may just have another four years of slide into shit before the next possible crisis.