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jointhefediverse.net seems to be a commonly linked resource for directing people to join the Fediverse.

Curiously, it does not list Lemmy under the list of Reddit alternatives. Their GitHub README explains why.

Previous relevant discussion: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That feels like complaints about lemmy.ml specifically more than Lemmy as a software. There's a few instances that defederate lemmy.ml out there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They can do whatever shit they want with their instance and believe whatever they want. The software they make provably doesn't have any more biases than any other software. As long as that's the case, I'm fine.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe there's something in the codebase that sends all our data to North Korea... who knows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We do, because it’s open source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you read all the code though? Everyone assumes that somebody else will read every single file of the source code, and understand it all. Malicious code can be obfuscated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Personally, no. However the technical lead of our instance has, and in fact wrote and debugged some of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even a technical lead of an instance may not have read every single line of code because codebases these days are pretty large. Typically you might look at the code you're working on, but not necessarily the entire codebase.

Hopefully Lemmy doesn't have anything malicious in it, but it's possible to sneak malware into open source projects. This sort of thing happened to XZ Utils last year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you are worried about the Lemmy codebase, there is https://piefed.social/

It's still another codebase you need to trust, but in this case the devs don't have specific political views

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah I've heard of that, maybe I should look at it more. Hopefully the Lemmy codebase is fine though. I'm just saying it's possible, even if perhaps unlikely, that something could be lurking in the code which nobody has discovered yet. The XZ Utils backdoor was well-hidden and happened to be discovered, but maybe malicious code isn't always discovered.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it’s guilt by association. Think about how X is now. Its owner is an asshole, and that hurts the platform regardless of how many cool people use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

X is under total control of that person. As long as the lemmy source adheres to fediverse principles, this developer can believe whatever they want and run their instance however they want, and no one else has to care. If his beliefs starts affecting the lemmy source, it's always an option to fork.

If you exclude a branch of the fediverse because of one bad instance, you're missing the point of the fediverse.