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If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a tea trolley.
Right now the reality is the Donald Trump is going to take office because a lot of people didn't vote for the alternative.
All the 'what if...?' games in the world isn't going to change that.
Thank you for the opportunity to teach.
Minimization.
Red herring.
Minimization.
This is a bit better than typical nonsense because there's two tactics in a sandwich. Next is usually ad hominem. But, this one may have another trick up their sleeve.
Simply naming fallacies isn't teaching. The point of learning fallacies isn't so that you can just name them and feel like you've made a point.
I asked a question. I received a fallacy sandwich in return. There's no point in investing further.
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strawman
The point of teaching is sharing knowledge, not just poking holes in whatever argument you can (intentional hyperbole, not strawman)
Instead of just "strawman, therefore you're wrong" and leaving it at that, how about you explain what was incorrect in that statement. That way you become more understood, and everyone understands you more.
This isn't a courtroom debate. This isn't a debate you "win" or "lose". This is a debate where everyone should be trying to understand each other, so that everyone ends up better off by the end. This sort of debate is a cooperative thing, not competitive.
The audience I wish to reach doesn't need their hand held as a child.
Who do you think you're actually reaching?
That's by far the best question I've been asked in this thread. However, satisfying your curiosity would require me to break a well-reasoned commitment I've already made to others.
I'm reminded of children in grade school who "I know what that means, I'm just not going to explain it to you."
Okay. You're a lot of talking for someone who doesn't want to say anything.
Yes. In this endeavor you're beginning to understand the means I've chosen for the majority.
Ad hominem. How ironic, who could have expected this! Blocked lmao.
A. I hate to do this, but
Strawman, saying that this is about "leading people like they're children" not "clear and effective communication as equals"
B. What I'm talking about is proactively sharing your views, both to save time on questioning and to fill gaps that others would have never thought to ask about. Please, tell me why this isn't a needed part of discussion.
I need not accommodate everyone.
None of your assertions have been supported
How do you not choke on your irony?
With well-reasoned and nuanced principles supported by vast experience.
Unsupported
You're going to have to explain that in detail. Trump got more votes. He won. How is that anything except a cold, hard fact?
Pompous.