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Windows 11 market share falls despite Microsoft ad blitz | Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market (www.theregister.com)

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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Windows users will do everything, including using a soon unsupported and insecure, outdated version of this proprietary garbage, instead of just switching to a better OS

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't lump us all together. Windows users are just linux users who aren't there yet.

I moved early this year and haven't had significiant problems, though I'm IT savvy and can code my way around my issues. Linux is great, and I'd been halfway there for a long time, but Windows had the edge on gaming and simplicity. They fucked up, though when they started pushing for AI and Win11, at least for me. Where the Rubicon lies will be different for everyone, but it does exist for many.

We win by couching linux as the place to go to escape corporate focus and greed, not by being elitist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My general experience has been: "Come to Linux"

"But not ubuntu that's trash"

"Why the fuck would you use arch, dummy?"

"If you wanted wide software support why wouldn't you use arch"

"You can just learn the build tool chain for that software and do it yourself"

Etc Etc

The Linux community is very welcoming until you expect things to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

but Windows had the edge on gaming and simplicity

I'm sorry, but no. Absolutely not.

You want to install Windows without giving up all of your personal information to a greedy corporation that will sell it or use it to train AI? Too bad, gotta figure out how to launch the command line during the OOBE process (it's Shift + F10 btw) and figure out which command to enter (btw it's oobe\bypassnro), then restart your PC to reload the OOBE, just so you can avoid the absolutely brain-dead account requirement. Simple, right?

You want to stop Windows from using Edge by default? Very simple, just download this tool from GitHub.

You want to get rid of Microsoft Edge? Just a couple of PowerShell commands. Very simple, very intuitive, very user-friendly, right?

You want to do anything that you as an end user aren't meant to do? Have fun and dive into regedit, while always having to fear that you might brick your system.

You want to disable Recall/Copilot/whatever they call their AI garbage? Too bad, you can't. It's baked into the system specifically in a way that makes it impossible to remove. What a fucking simple and intuitive operating system. Always works like a charm and lets me do whatever I want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Most people don't care about the same things you care about. I do, and still find managing windows easier but I agree not everyone will because I also care about things like tpm support and kernel signing. Windows does all these things with no hoops, making it simpler for my use case. I've never had a registry entry brick anything.

I'm not super controlling, so I don't feel an overriding need to remove edge just because it's there. I used Rufus to bypass tpm and web login support with 2 checkboxes. Life just isn't that hard.

For someone who doesn't care at all, windows is significantly easier.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most people don’t care about the same things you care about.

Oh I do believe that most people absolutely fucking hate Edge and want to get rid of it. I'm also pretty sure that people aren't interested in creating an account that has basically no benefits, while just being annoying as fuck.

I also care about things like tpm support and kernel signing

UEFI secure boot and the TPM API are fundamentally broken and provide nothing more than an illusion of security. If you want to see what a proper secure boot setup looks like, take a look at Android Verified Boot with an actual hardware secure element (e.g. the Google Titan M2). UEFI secure boot only exists to comply with standards and certifications written by people who know nothing about security.

I used Rufus to bypass tpm and web login support with 2 checkboxes.

Creating Windows installation media in general is a great topic, why the actual fuck does Microsoft not provide a bootloader in their ISO images?!? I recently wanted to create a Windows 11 install USB drive, but I didn't have any working Windows installation at that time. I can't create a Windows USB from macOS or Linux, because I need to use Microsoft's stupid Media Creation Tool, which, guess what, only works on Windows. I need Windows in order to install fucking Windows. This is so insanely stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Edge is fairly popular, your assessment is without merit there. Id trust it over chrome and the scum at brave but under chromium, Vivaldi, Firefox.

Even if a tpm chip is just a deadbolt on your door, it's better than nothing and will keep your stuff safe from 99% of attackers. Yes the nsa well get through but they were gonna anyway. Your curious friend or random criminal aren't gonna get through. It's a deadbolt. I like having a deadbolt. It won't keep me actually safe but it will still stop 99% of people. You can let the perfect be the enemy of the good if you'd like, but until my Asus has a titan chip I'm gonna do what I can.

I don't understand your last comment, Microsoft does provide a full iso and if you use Rufus to burn to a USB drive it works fine bootloader and all. No need to even try to use their hot garbage media creator tool, which sucks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

It really varies on what distro/DE/etc. you choose. Many are very simple and user friendly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Just found a post on [email protected] that sums this up pretty well: https://lemmy.ca/post/26083247

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I switched to Linux easily because this laptop does nothing but internet and office work. If you have any kind of complex workflow, changing anything is hard, let alone changing everything from the OS upwards. Same if you need to run obscure proprietary software.