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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Supporting the PRC is absolutely a Leftist position, as a Socialist country and a rising superpower it's the current best hope for Socialism, whether you agree with all of the CPC's actions or only some.

Critical, reserved support for Russia's temporary and strategic anti-US Hegemony stance does not mean Leftists critically supporting Russia agree with the Russian state or support it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding but are you in support of the CCP?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Generally yes, I support the CPC. I'm a Marxist, and their dedication to developing Socialism, eliminating poverty, developing green energy, and presenting an alternative for the Global South should be admired. The PRC and CPC aren't perfect, not by any stretch, but among the major world powers they are the least problematic and present the greatest potential for Humanity moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Support for Russia's genocidal invasion of Ukraine in no way supports anti-US hegemony stances. They're literally stealing children and indoctrinating them-the same thing the US did while committing genocide against the First Peoples.

Just opposing the US doesn't make Russia the good guys.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Genocidal invasion

The US is doing an actual genocide in Palestine, but thanks for telling everyone you don't know what words mean

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Russia's invasion of Ukraine isn't "genocidal," what would be closer to genocidal is the West's intention to fight Russia to the last Ukranian standing. Several times, Russia has tried to reach a peace deal, only for the UK and US to step in and tell Ukraine not to take it. The "stealing of children" is taking orphans from warzones and making sure they don't die.

Russia's goal isn't to ethnically cleanse Ukraine, nor is it to "de-Nazify" Ukraine. Russia's goal is to totally ruin Ukraine's military capabilities as a means to prevent further extension of NATO encirclement around it's borders. This is a consequence of the 2014 Euromaidan coup, and goes all the way back to the dissolution of the USSR. When the USSR was sliced up and sold to the West for profit, 7 million people died, and a Nationalist movement led to domestic Nationalist bourgeoisie reclaiming industry from the West, beginning a long series of NATO expansion and encirclement to force Russia to open themselves up again for the West to profit.

No, Russia are not the "good guys." No Communist believes Russia has morally just intentions and is here to save everyone. Communists believe Russia is acting in its own material interests, and those interests happen to align against US-Hegemony, which Communists see as the primary block for progress.

Communists have as such advocated for both countries to negotiate a cease-fire since the beginning of the invasion. An ideal situation would be a cessation of NATO expansion and no bloodshed, but Communists have no real control over that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

nor is it to "de-Nazify" Ukraine

I think they do want to do this, since the Nazis are extremely hostile to Russia, so it's crushing the opposition. Obviously this is pretty different from the historical de-Nazification efforts whose corpse Putin cynically puppets as cover for his actions.

If there are meaningful factions of Greater Russia Nazis, he'd obviously be fine with those.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Sure, there is some element to that, but the mover and pusher is a removal of threats, not out of any anti-fascist dedication, hence why like you said Putin is fine with "Greater Russia" Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're literally stealing children and indoctrinating them

Let's say there's a war going on, and let's say there are war orphans, or children who were already orphans before the war
Let's say these children are also native Russian speakers, like many many people in Eastern Ukraine

  1. What should the Russian government do? Send these orphans to orphanages far from the front?

  2. Or: put them on the bus and send them to the Ukrainian government where they ban the Russian language and there are Bandera pictures everywhere?

Do you seriously believe this is the same as what the Canadians did to the natives?

I think the extreme version of this, "stealing children", is on the same level as the "Gaddafi 'supplies troops with Viagra to encourage massremoved'"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Not believing in blatant right-wing propaganda is a leftist position. Parroting right-wing propaganda is a right-wing position. You are parroting right-wing propaganda. Please stop doing that, especially if you consider yourself on the left.