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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Its 3 right? Am i real? Why can't ai guess that one?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Over simplification but partly it has to do with how LLMs split language into tokens and some of those tokens are multi-letter. To us when we look for R's we split like S - T - R - A - W - B - E - R - R - Y where each character is a token, but LLMs split it something more like STR - AW - BERRY which makes predicting the correct answer difficult without a lot of training on the specific problem. If you asked it to count how many times STR shows up in "strawberrystrawberrystrawberry" it would have a better chance.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, you explained it well enough this layman kinda gets it!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Llms look for patterns in their training data. So like if you asked 2+2= it would look its training and finds high likelihood the text that follows 2+2= is 4. Its not calculating, its finding the most likely completion of the pattern based on what data it has.

So its not deconstructing the word strawberry into letters and running a count... it tries to finish the pattern and fails at simple logic tasks that arent baked into the training data.

But a new model chatgpt-o1 checks against itself in ways i dont fully understand and scores like 85% on international mathematic standardized test now so they are making great improvements there. (Compared to a score of like 14% from the model that cant count the r's in strawberry)