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Win11 exclusive? Welp, guess I'll never use it, then.
I've used Vista "exclusive" programs on XP back in those days so I'm kinda curious how exclusive it really is if I could get the installer/files for it.
Shouldn't be too hard, I expect it to be a single executable stored in
C:\Windows\System32, much like the current mspaint.exe. Copy it over, run, have funWouldn’t surprise me if they lock it to the windows store. I hope I’m wrong!
Windows 11 is pretty awesome though
That's where you lost credibility.
Windows 7 was their last non-tracking OS.
1 minute during setup is not exactly a sacrifice
It doesn't stop all tracking, a lot of it still happens in the background, only "without identification". If you thought otherwise, I have this pristine Eiffel Tower for sale.
I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness
Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data'
What's the useful part
It's not 1 minute, you have to be technically savvy and run scripts from GitHub
No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard
Oh Jesus her we go
It shows where Microsoft's mind is at. And it won't stop here.
God forbid they make money on a product they have given away
Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit.
I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options
...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it".
It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license.
So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is.
I feel like you didn't read my reply
In addition, the paid versions still track you
They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person
you're either naive or you're working for microsoft.
Good one
most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license.
More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11
They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice.
It's still missing a handful of features from Windows10, which might keep some people from upgrading
Yeah that and on my custom built pc that runs awesomely windows 11 poo poos some of my hardware and refuses to take up residence all together.
I'm running Windows 11 on Chromebooks without issue.
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If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft
Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow
It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast
I'll bite, what features are missing
Ungrouped task bar buttons, I like seeing what's running on my task bar at a glance. And I don't like having it shrunk down to just an icon either.
You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar
Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now.
i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it.
https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2
Windows 11 is a much better experience for developers than Windows 10. I see a lot of people who just hate on it for no real reason other than it's different.
I'm a dev and I hate Win11. I could list dozens of reasons why, but one that pisses me off daily is that they removed keyboard shortcuts from task manager for no goddamn reason. Alt+E is the shortcut to end process on every other Windows OS except Win11 because it was made with malicious incompetence.
Eh, I don't hate Windows (unlike a lot in the Fediverse), but I wouldn't say Win11 is awesome. It probably just works. From what I see it's just a mildly-improved 10, which is nice, but missing a few things (no grouped task bar button option in my case), which is why I'm holding out for now.