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10 years ago, I'd have put my ability to visualise at 0 out of 10. Practice and occasional halucinogen use has got me to 2 out of 10. It causes no end of problems in day to day life, so I'm interested to hear if anyone has tips or just experiences to share so it doesn't feel such a lonely frustrating issue.

edit informative comment from @[email protected] about image streaming, I did a bit of digging on the broken links, the Dr isn't giving the info away for free anymore without buying their (expensive) book, but I found some further info on additional techniques here, pages 2/3: https://nlpcourses.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Image-Streaming-Mode-of-Thinking.pdf

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not the person you're responding to, but yeah, the voice-in-my-head CAN (but does not always) sound just like actually hearing someone.

I have a caveat there because the "voice" that is "me" (that is to say, I don't perceive it as someone else talking, but me talking/thinking to myself--it does not have the feeling of an outsider or stranger talking to me) does not always hold all the "information" of an actual audio voice.

Like, I don't normally carry the same "pitch" as my real-life voice, it's usually without pitch, but can still contain emotional prosody? It's a shifting mix of soundless but verbal (as opposed to nonverbal) thought and sound-markers that indicate emotion in real life when spoken out loud.

However, I'm also a writer, and when I write dialogue of a character, it usually carries "sound information" much more distinctly in my head, like listening to a radio narrator or watching an actor. Like, a male character will have a lower voice, a female higher. A flamboyant character might pronounce and say things with a lot of drama and theatrics, where a stoic bored character might be closer to a monotone. It's all controlled by me, by the way--it's not schizophrenia where I perceive it as an outside person or force talking to me. But it is very "audible". (But there's still some mental filter where I know it's thought and don't mistake it for real in-the-present sound.)

...I did have musical training as a child which might play into my ability to have strongly imagined sound in my head. When I get songs stuck in my head, I actually do "hear" them. I hear the singer singing, but also the unique tones of the various instruments. So if a song has a guitar I hear that, but if it's a piano I hear a piano playing it in my memory and not a guitar.

...these things don't always have 100% fidelity though, it's not like playing a file on a computer. It's a fuzzy in-and-out-of-focus thing. But when it's "in focus" it's definitely something tagged by my mind as "sound".

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's pretty wild how we never think about other people having different methods of thought. When i learned that some people can hear in their heads i googled a bit and found some interesting articles about thinking in words, pictures, and patterns. There's a Temple Grandin book about it - haven't read it yet.