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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I haven't encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Hey, isn't nati the one that drone strikes weddings?" "No, that the US, that us." "But america is part of nato..." "Yes, but you can't just" "Why would nato do that?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ukraine conflict isn't a RU - US proxy war in the traditional sense but it's worth noting that the overwhelming majority of foreign aid to Ukraine has come from the US, more than double the amount of aid given by the EU as a whole. It's not hard to assume that Ukraine would be in a much worse place without America's support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, of course it has, the Budapest Memorandum says they have to help, it's a defensive pact they got in return for giving up nukes. But people are pretending the US is like the instigator and driver of this conflict even though they are literally just one of the countries providing aid to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You aren't totally wrong, but this is why this mindset is pervasive...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And if you look at it by gdp the US isn't even top 10 and the US, UK and northern Ireland are the only countries with a pact obligating them to help Ukraine.