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Amazon failed to adequately alert more than 300,000 customers to serious risks—including death and electrocution—that US Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) testing found with more than 400,000 products that third parties sold on its platform.

The CPSC unanimously voted to hold Amazon legally responsible for third-party sellers' defective products. Now, Amazon must make a CPSC-approved plan to properly recall the dangerous products—including highly flammable children's pajamas, faulty carbon monoxide detectors, and unsafe hair dryers that could cause electrocution—which the CPSC fears may still be widely used in homes across America.

While Amazon scrambles to devise a plan, the CPSC summarized the ongoing risks to consumers:

If the [products] remain in consumers’ possession, children will continue to wear sleepwear garments that could ignite and result in injury or death; consumers will unwittingly rely on defective [carbon monoxide] detectors that will never alert them to the presence of deadly carbon monoxide in their homes; and consumers will use the hair dryers they purchased, which lack immersion protection, in the bathroom near water, leaving them vulnerable to electrocution.

Instead of recalling the products, which were sold between 2018 and 2021, Amazon sent messages to customers that the CPSC said "downplayed the severity" of hazards.

In these messages—"despite conclusive testing that the products were hazardous" by the CPSC—Amazon only warned customers that the products "may fail" to meet federal safety standards and only "potentially" posed risks of "burn injuries to children," "electric shock," or "exposure to potentially dangerous levels of carbon monoxide."

Typically, a distributor would be required to specifically use the word "recall" in the subject line of these kinds of messages, but Amazon dodged using that language entirely. Instead, Amazon opted to use much less alarming subject lines that said, "Attention: Important safety notice about your past Amazon order" or "Important safety notice about your past Amazon order."

Amazon then left it up to customers to destroy products and explicitly discouraged them from making returns. The e-commerce giant also gave every affected customer a gift card without requiring proof of destruction or adequately providing public notice or informing customers of actual hazards, as can be required by law to ensure public safety.

Further, Amazon's messages did not include photos of the defective products, as required by law, and provided no way for customers to respond. The commission found that Amazon "made no effort" to track how many items were destroyed or even do the minimum of monitoring the "number of messages that were opened."

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yup and the all negative reviews are inexplicably removed.

If any physical store got a dangerous product, was made undeniably aware of the danger and continued to sell the product - they'd be in a lot of trouble.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Likely more than just removed. I'm pretty sure that I left one too many scathing reviews of products that were defective by design or outright frauds, now I can't leave any reviews.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Oh i can explain.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I straight up wouldn't trust Amazon for any electrical safety device. Go to a hardware store or parts distributor.

Even a surge protector from a reputable brand could be suspect - Amazon lets counterfeit products on the storefront all the time, and most sellers barely list any specifications on product pages.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just do not buy random non brand stuff? A Fluke multimeter will work the same regardless where you buy it.

Counterfeits apply to all stores. The local store in no way has the capability or knowledge to identify them. On Amazon I could at least get reviews to tell me about it.

In any case, testing is better than believing, regardless of anything else.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Local stores are more likely to get their product from reputable suppliers (yes, this varies) - on Amazon, you're buying from whoever unless you specifically seek out an official store, if it exists. Also, Fluke has been posting about counterfeits for years; here is a post from 6 months ago, which would suggest it's an ongoing issue.

Here is a 2021 post from Electrician Talk about electricians receiving multimeters that don't ohm out correctly (kind of a big fucking deal). Additionally, if you buy products on Amazon from an unauthorized seller, even if the product works fine the warranty is generally void.

Edit: Also, to be pedantic, a multimeter isn't an electrical safety device; I'm using that term to refer to protective devices like fuses, GFCIs, AFCIs, breakers, thermal overloads, etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

*car fuses. But yeah, I don't wanna be burned inside a car.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Its still an electrical fuse regardless of whether it goes into a car or a plug