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What's your plan if Trump wins in November? (lemm.ee)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Guns dont mass murder people, mass murderers do.

Blaming guns wont fix social injustice and wealth inequality, so you'll just end up creating the next unabomber or OKC bombing.

Shit will only get worse if we dont focus on the underlying issues.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, more accurately, mass murders with guns do. I'm not saying we ban guns. But let's not ignore half the issue. It's mental health and easy access to weapons of mass murder. Some gun control makes sense. Doing something about mental health makes sense.

But you'll never see a Republican vote for either. Government provided mental health programs? That's communism! They are fine to let both problems run rampant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Im ok with barriers of entry, 5 day waiting period, etc.

Im less ok with people carving lines in the sand on a wedge issue and instead focus on ones that has high approval ratings and enact change.

Medicare for all/single payer is widely popular and would greatly reduce mental health issues in America.

Legalizing cannabis will also help.

UBI and the like arent quite as popular, so will be more difficult for those things that curb poverty to get passed, but probably still easier than banning guns in USA.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Guns dont mass murder people, mass murderers do.

Sure, but the guns help.

Try for a mass casualty event with some knives. It’s doable, but you have to work for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In the hospital we address both the disease as well as the symptoms. If the symptoms aren't controlled, the prognosis of the disease is worse.

A deranged person who slips through the cracks of society can inflict more devastation with a firearm than a knife, as seen time and time again.

So sure let's focus on underlying issues. But let's stop pretending aRmInG tHE leFt will do jack shit, too.