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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Iam so sick of this conversation. It is not cheap, it’s not clear where to let the waste and in the end it’s even dangerous. Don’t let some populists make you think nuklear energy is good. France made a big mistake to go all in. All projects take longer than expected and cost much more than calculated.

https://www.duh.de/fileadmin/user_upload/download/Projektinformation/Energiewende/Positionspapier_Atomkraft_final.pdf

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yes, all projects do those things, generally.

Have they had issues with your other concerns?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

France made a big mistake to go all in.

Not only does Germany import electricity from France (which comes from...?), but Germany has (according to this) a substantially higher carbon footprint per capita.

If the only issue is cost and projects taking longer than expected, isn't that a good tradeoff for carbon neutral power?

And yes, of course, I would prefer renewables, you would prefer renewables, we all would. But it's somewhat disingenuous to decry the use of nuclear, advocate for renewables, and at the same time, rely heavily on coal, as Germany does (or at the very least, did recently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Germany Imports 0,5% of the Electricity from France. It’s not that we are depending on it. The day ahead prices for electricity are lower in Germany than they are in France. The Coal Plant are not running on full capacity, cause it is cheaper to import electricity through the European electricity Grid. Level of burning coal is the same level that it was in the 60’s. The most imported electricity is Norway water power and Danish wind Power.

The cheap news that we depend on France are just wrong. No idea why everybody is riding this dead horse. Even in the summer 2022 when gas prices where high caused by the Ukraine war and the summer was hot, we had to help our France with energy, cause their nuclear power plants couldn’t get enough cooling water from the rivers, cause the water lvl in it was to low and the most power plant needed maintenance.

And the CO2 thing. The emissions are infinite high, cause there is not a solutions for it. Not even close! I just don’t buy the shit, that the EU declared nuclear as co2 free. That’s bullshit.

I like to discuss and get new ideas. But the whole nuclear thing is just stupid and so many people are ignoring the facts about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

China will be offering nuclear waste disposal services once they complete the molten salt reactors that we designed in the '60s. Nuclear waste will be a non-issue, unlike the cyanide waste created in coal and natural gas plants.