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See, Apple? Even cars can do it :)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I guess it would either work like a subscription fee or a one time fee per swap

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Subscription for my car? Don't we have too much subscriptions already?

And neither solve the ownship problem, and a tons of other problems.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gas is more like pas-as-you-go. Battery no so sure. And they are different by nature: gas can't be reused, batteries can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The energy inside both can’t be reused. Both a gas tank and battery can be refilled.

Gas is just easier to transfer between containers. Electricity needs it be moved inside its container.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Isn't the whole thing about who owns the tank?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Electricity is incredibly easy to move between containers. That's how electric cars work.

Making charging faster by removing most of the range (because you have way less volume to use if it's removable) and making a cheap power source obscenely expensive makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You pay a monthly fee (lease) that contains a certain number of swaps per month, above which you pay extra. The car is also cheaper this way, as you are not paying the full price of the the battery up front

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, you're paying over and over for the battery.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Sort of like how you pay over and over for gas, without which your car doesn't work?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Even when I don’t use it? How is it acceptable?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't see anywhere that you can't also just buy a battery and charge it yourself if you'd prefer that over a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Which the manufacture will either set a high price or simply not offer it. We had this in software (Adobe), and movies/TV shows (Netflix). Companies prefer continuous steady streams of revenue over burst because the numbers will look better for the investors, and easy to show them the solid future of the company.

I won't be in the "Owns nothing and be happy" camp. Or honestly, rarely have things I do not own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But for gas you don't need to worry ownership problem as you can't reuse gas. Once it is burnt, it's gone.

Batteries are different because you can recharge it, which brings ownership problem into sight. And unlike gas tank for your grill, which the port is somewhat universal and shape doesn't matter too much. Car batteries have wear level that affects performamce (range) and are likely designed to fit a car/platform. It isn't that interchangeable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, it's like paying over and over for the gas tank.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The model only works if users are forced to subscribe to a battery swapping service for the full life of the vehicle (or there is a large upfront fee to join with a used vehicle). Otherwise it would be too easy for a consumer with a worn out battery to do a one-time swap and get a like-new battery as a cheap alternative to very costly battery repairs. The dumped battery is likely to have very poor range and the battery swap company will need to dispose of it.