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Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.
So the Apple Intelligence isn’t all ChatGPT. I think this deserves to be mentioned as a lot of the processing will be on device.
Also, I believe part of the deal is ChatGPT can save nothing and Apple are anonymising the requests too.
chatgpt won't save anything? Doubtful.
Brother I do not care about your doubts.
I want hard facts here.
Do you think that if you enter into a contract with a company like Apple they’ll just be like, aww shit they weren’t supposed to do that. Anyway let’s carry on.
No. This would open OpenAi up to potential lawsuits.
Even if they did save stuff. It gets anonymised by Apple before even being sent to ChatGPT servers.
thing is apple doesnt give a shit about ur privacy
Finally, a reasonable comment.
I would concede that they want to keep it all for themselves, although a lot of anonymising of data is done.
My point is Apple are not sharing it with every third party on the Earth.
If you’re using Android then you don’t really have a leg to stand on, unless you’re using GrapheneOS and you’ve sandboxed Google services.
I would rather use a device that maybe keeps it all for themselves. Rather than one where it is shared with Everyman and his dog.
Plenty of things you can shit on Apple for, but this isn’t one of them I’m afraid.
careful, that's a hardcore tankie troll you replied to.
The hard fact is OpenAI is already exposing itself to lawsuits by training on copyrighted material.
So the proof here should be "what makes them trustworthy this time?"
Because Apples lawyers will go ham.
I don’t want my comments here to be received as shilling Apple, more that I want them to based on actual information that is provided and not opinion pieces.
The fact is, if they were to caught saving data then Apple would just end the contract. Is it worth it for them to lose out on that cash, for the sake of using it. When they can just use all the other sources where they are allowed to do that.
Anyway, I don’t care what anonymised data they may or may not save. It won’t be tied to me.
Edit: Do you have some information on this existing lawsuits and the contracts they broke?
Google pays Apple $20 billion a year to keep their search on Apple devices. The subtext of "search" is Google pays Apple for your search data.
Apple has sold your data for the right price to Google, so there should be no expectation that they won't do the same with other companies.
They sell Google the right to keep it as the default, not that they’re selling data.
Again, point me to some proof of it being actually selling data. As to my understanding they pay for the default engine to be Google.
That Google is the search engine means Google gets that valuable search data. So they pay to be the default search engine to get your data.
Sure, but let’s be honest. Even if it wasn’t the majority of people are still using Google anyway.
I prefer Arc Search myself.
There's kind of a difference between "we scraped the internet and decided to use copyrighted content anyways because we decided to interpret copyright law as not being applicable to the content we generate using copyrighted content" (omegalul) and "we explicitly agreed to a legally-binding contract with Apple stating we won't do that".
Doubt.
Voice recognition, image recognition, yes. But actual questions will go to Apple servers.
Is this conjecture or can you provide some further reading, in the interest of not spreading misinformation.
Edit: I decided to read the info from Apple.
Say what you will about Apple, but privacy isn’t a concern for me. Perhaps, some independent experts will verify this in time.
Which is exactly what I said. It's not local.
That they are keeping the data you send private is irrelevant to the OP claim that the AI model answering questions is local.
OP here being me.
I feel I was pretty explicit in explaining how some requests will go to ChatGPT.
Apple has published papers on small LLM models and multimodal models already. I would be surprised if they aren't using them for on-device processing.