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The long-awaited day is here: Apple has announced that its Messages app will support RCS in iOS 18. The move comes after years of taunting, cajoling, and finally, some regulatory scrutiny from the EU.

Right now, when people on iOS and Android message each other, the service falls back to SMS — photos and videos are sent at a lower quality, messages are shortened, and importantly, conversations are not end-to-end encrypted like they are in iMessage. Messages from Android phones show up as green bubbles in iMessage chats and chaos ensues.

Apple’s announcement was likely an effort to appease EU regulators.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Signal is better than any other common alternative, and its on both android and ios

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Signal also does jack all unless both parties are using Signal. In this case, might be fine. Need to talk to anyone else in your life? It's back to iMessage.

I love Signal and will probably never get rid of it but the use case for it has shrunk tremendously since they removed the ability to message non-signal users.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

imessage is no better in that case - and outside America barely anybody still uses either SMS or RCS, apple is a smaller share of the market meaning the ubiquity of imessage isn't there.

If you want anything beyond SMS which is a universal standard, you both have to be using the same service - I'm just saying that signal is available for anyone who wants to use it.

I was also upset at the removal of texting from signal, but in hindsight its for the best - if its a secure message service that youre not charged per message to use, the support of a dying platform which is difficult to distinguish when in use is an issue - now its extremely clear whether youre reaching someone through signal or text, cause signal only sends signal messages.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Everybody is using WhatsApp which is available for all platforms. I'm not the biggest fan of that but a user base of literally billions is hard to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's not really a thing in the US, which is kind of weird since it's such a big deal elsewhere. Then again, I'm happy it's not a thing here because I've avoided Meta/Facebook entirely, and I'd like to keep it that way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The issue is WhatsApp from a few years ago versus WhatsApp today - meta/favebook is probably the worst possible company to have bought it, their record on security, privacy, and features is horrible.

The app today is full of enshitification (meta ai being shoved down my throat by the communication monopoly) and nobody can ever fully trust their security or privacy because its not open source.

Signal sadly doesn't yet have the ubiquity of whatsapp - but for everyone that has it (now I'm finding even non tech-savvy family are switching over) use signal, and where you have to, use WhatsApp.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah but the 😮 react isn't hilarious.