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Who could have seen this coming except for people warning about it for decades (i.imgflip.com)
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[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Then, when you try to legislate any kind of standard for humane livestock treatment, the farmers throw a hissy fit and block all the roads with their tractors.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Also featuring angry people because of a possible increase in price for meat/dairy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Was that due to animal welfare regulations? Thought it had to do with regulations favoring mega farms and forcing small farms to stop.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

It's because of all kinds of things in different places

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It wasn't. Hes being deliberately deliberately disingenuous

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's not possible to produce the amount of meat needed to feed our massive population while treating animals humanely.

There are really two options to deal with this:

  1. Most humans in the world become vegan -- sounds great but it's not gonna happen

  2. Reduce our population to sustainable numbers (by eliminating the driver of the population explosion, i.e. fossil energy) -- maybe also not gonna happen

Edit: What (do I think) will happen? We'll continue as we are now as hundreds of billions of animals are tortured until our civilization collapses. This will happen because we were all brought up under a state and told that defending ourselves, our communities, our animals, is wrong and illegal.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

False dichotomy here. Americans could certainly reduce their intake of meat without going full vegan. Regulations could be created to treat livestock more humanely without completely eliminating factory farming, which yes would increase prices, which would probably also reduce meat consumption somewhat. Also population growth within the US has dropped off quite a bit and is projected to further decline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You're right, to some insufficient degree, but that's like reducing your meth habit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Humans can be made began if say, meat production was banned. How far we are willing to go to save ourselves from ecological disaster is a matter of choice