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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If I’m not allowed to have a discussion or disagreement with you, and get kicked out instead, I’ll just go to places where they will talk with me

I actually tried to, and if it was possible to have rational and polite discussion, without straw man arguments, dog pilling, personal attacks and finally threats of violence, I would have continued to try. But sadly all of this happen, multiple times.

At some points I considered leaving Lemmy, thinking that this federation as a whole was not safe for debating. But then I started understanding patterns, either it was from the users from a specific instance, or it was communities from a specific instance that turned like that. Overall the pattern seem to be that if the instance mentions extreme political ideologies in its description or if the profiles of its admins do, then debating is not possible.

If they want to stay connected to people to avoid the circle jerk, they have to work on themselves too (ex: learning to debate politely), you can't except us to absorb all the damages to help them avoid radicalization. It's like walking towards a terrorist group with flowers while they are shooting around and expecting them to be inspired by your pacifism.

I do enjoy debating and questioning my own beliefs, but I am not on Lemmy to consume my mental health, so I need to take some actions to protect it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

not safe debating

Sorry, just to comment on this one: I really dislike that phrase, its use is part of the reason why we are where we are. You ARE safe, all the time. It's not like you talking in a lemmy instance puts you at risk of being shot in the head.

You may encounter assholes, and opinions that you don't like but that doesn't make you unsafe. Uncomfortable, mayby, for having to read information you oppose?

A black man driving and stopped by US police can claim he feels not safe. We lemmies are perfectly fine. I think many people need to grow a little thicker skin in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Uncomfortable, mayby, for having to read information you oppose?

dog pilling, personal attacks and finally threats of violence [...] I am not on Lemmy to consume my mental health

Not all violence is physical.

I think many people need to grow a little thicker skin in that regard.

Are you blaming me for not having a tick enough skin instead of blaming the behavior of attackers? Please reconsider that thought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

not all violence is physical

Yeaaahhh, no. Though there is verbal abuse out there, whenever people start talking about verbal violence they're basically tslkit about any opinion they don't like.

Blaming you for not having a thick enough skin instead of blaming the behaviour of the attacker

I would not blame you if someone hits you without provocation, but in my admittedly personal experience, people tend to talk shit, then get told off and claim violence, or they may hear an opinion they don't like and start talking about attackers, somehow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Inciting violence In a group context very much is verbal and leads to violence.

Threats of violence are a type of violence because a sensible person has to react and prepare for the violence.