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I heard someone said that, at the end EV will cost you almost the same as gasoline vehicle, if you have to change the expensive battery every so often. Can someone please give me more info on this? Thank you so much.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I operated an electric vehicle between 2016 and 2020. All costs included, I paid a bit under 300 EUR per months for 25.000km / year.

I operated different gasoline vehicles between 2007 and 2014. All costs included, I paid a bit under 300 EUR per months for roughly 25.000km/ year.

From that I conclude it doesn't matter enough to make it a big topic, but at least here in Germany, both electricity and gasoline prices have skyrocketed since, so, who knows. Charging cost may be cheaper if you can charge at home.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were you able to charge at home or did you have a significant about of charging station use?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mostly charging stations. Originally I planned to load at home but soon after buying I moved houses and had to rely on nearby charging stations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a big ass caveat in your original post. You really need to edit it to include it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why? If anything, charging stations are more expensive than charging at home.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, you would have saved a ton of money charging at home. You presented that they cost the same, but charging at home is much cheaper.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but overall battery and charging cost where about half/half. The biggest factor by far was value loss.

It’s not the big difference it may seem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You cut the charging cost and it is a lot. The numbers I've seen in the US are the charging stations will cost you 4x-5x what it will cost you at home.

And fast charging stations is hard on the battery. Slow charging at home is better for battery longevity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm driving a Nissan leaf, and it's costing me about $180 to drive 10,000 miles (4.2ish mi/kwh average over the past year), compared to about that same amount for under 1,000 miles on my Tacoma. I charge 99% at home using a 120v charger and I back calculated using my average mi/kwh and electricity cost. There's basically no maintenance, so the only extra cost of ownership is basically tires and brakes. My best guess at the battery degradation so far is about 2.5% per year, but the previous owner went extra lengths to keep the battery in good shape, as do I.

So far it looks like every 4-5 years I can replace the battery at the highest estimate and break even compared to my Tacoma. This is the original battery, still at about 80% capacity from 2016 and almost 50,000 miles.