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Google layoffs: The company plans to set up a new team in Munich, Germany which would act as "cheaper" labour, the report claimed.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I think this is the first time in my life I read the words cheaper and Munich in the same sentence

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Compared to software developer compensation in California, Germany is waaaay cheaper.

Heck, Munich is cheaper for Google than literally any of their US offices. You would make more by working for Google in Raleigh, North Carolina than in Munich.

The only European city that pays as well as the US is Zürich. The pay is really good there, about the same as Seattle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately cost of life in Zurich is much higher than Seattle!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sad but true. Munich is extremely expensive for people living there and not owning their homes, which is a large portion of the population and salaries for highly skilled individuals is a complete joke.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, how’s that going to be cheaper? Unions in Germany aren’t known for that. Unless Germany has an easier route to cheaper foreign workers with visas working there?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Salariés are thrice are high in the usa, and rent is probably twice the amount. Munich is definitely cheaper than cali. They could have also moved to a cheaper place within the USA, however. Also local regulations don't apply to big company in the USA, Germany might require subtler bribing.

Also, software people are not unionised in Germany, despite many of us being proper engineers (i.e. with a title), meaning it should be very easy. Well, my current company let me understand I should avoid talking about even a Betriebsrat (= mini union) if I were to make a career there sooo... No need to worry about that. Probably why they're not moving to e.g. Paris. Good luck getting qualified people not covered by a "convention collective".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Being told this sentence would result in me being one step closer to the exit door. It's not a KO criteria but one step closer to the exit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Isn't the works committee just that part of management that's been elected by the employees?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

We are speaking of Munich. Nothing is cheap in this city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Munich is cheaper for Google than literally any city in the US.

Software developer compensations are insanely high in the US, at least at these multinational corporations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I bet they won't be paying upwards of 200k salaries there though.