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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i was asking because i can explain the methodology, and it is dubious.

if you total all the inputs that go into a product (the water, the carbon emissions, the land use, etc), then you can see what it would cost to produce it if you made no other products. but that's not actually the environment in which meat dairy and eggs are produced.

the most illustrative example is cotton. cotton is not a food. it is grown for textiles. it wrecks the soil and it is THIRSTY. after you harvest the cotton and separate the fiber from the stalk and seed, you have seed left over. way more seed than you need to replant. cottonseed can be and is pressed for oil, but it takes much less processing to mix it into cattle fodder. why should the water used to grow cotton count against the water inputs for beef and milk? it's actually a conservation of resources. these industries are all interconnected, and trying to just put a singular value on every product in the absence of the context of its production is not actually useful in determining what would be ecologically responsible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

in sheer numbers, the larger services likely host more nazis. but who gives a fuck about that? the site is run by bad people and they will measure their success in eyeballs, so you can help starve them, and there is no need to talk about how many nazis are there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

instead of platitudes, maybe you could provide some facts about cattle diets. maybe a link from the USDA or FAO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Judging by the other comments and profile, it’s clear that you’re not trying to have a discussion in good faith and may be a troll

this is poisoning the well and name-calling. what i said is true, whether you want to engage with it or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

that graphic shows that the feed that is given to animals is almost entirely the industrial waste from oil production. it's called "soy meal" or "soy cake"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

looks to me like cattle get very little of the global soy crop, and most of what is fed to livestock is, as i said, the parts of the plant left over after we've taken what we want for ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

most cows mostly eat grass for most of their lives. whole corn is fed as a treat to entice them to eat the rest of the silage it's sprinkled on (in my experience).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

meat production uses far more land than plant-based alternatives

making food is a good use of land.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

whole corn and soybean are some of the primary cattle feed. The majority of all soybean grown in North America is used as cattle feed and corn is a large market segment.

can you cite any sources for that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

fuck that. what are satosjis private keys?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

by what metric?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

a lot of what we give to animals as feed is parts of plants we can't or won't eat,like silage. if we grow and use the part of the plant we want,and we can reclaim some more of the resources through animals,that's good.

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