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[–] [email protected] 423 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Dear YouTube, if anyone there ever reads this.

I tried not to block ads, I would let the preroll go and usually not skip it.

I started skipping ads when they started getting long. I recall some were several minutes long at times.

I started leaving videos part way through when there were mid-roll ads, and those got long enough that I'd often forget what I was even watching.

I started blocking the ads outright when I would be watching a relaxing video, and a very loud mid-roll ad would blow out my goddamn eardrums.

Fuck you YouTube. You abused your users, you chased off good content creators, and now you're offering people no carrot and all stick. How about you offer to match the volume of the ads to the videos, limit the length of ads to something reasonable, and nicely tell viewers that you are making ads less annoying and that unblocking the ads helps pay the content creators.

[–] [email protected] 177 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to make animations for YouTube, which weren't monetized because I hate ads, and one day they copyright struck me for some very provably public domain music, but the way they did it was to insert ads into my video without my consent so they could monetize them to send the money to the scammer who flagged me. So I just deleted my entire account, fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That didn't stop you from making cartoons, did it?

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago

No I just went to Vimeo lol

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

if they're anything like cable ads, they actually make the ads louder than the regular programming on purpose to try to make sure you hear it if you tune out or just walk away. no relaxed, unfocused watching for you!

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you’re using uBlock Origin. Go to “Filter Lists” and Purge All Caches. That may help.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I imagine they'll eventually find a way to prevent us from blocking ads. Twitch TV for example has found some ways to make adblock useless.

It's a shame, and it's really just a side effect of google racing to the bottom of the adspace game. If ads weren't as cheap as they are today, they wouldn't be trying to maximize the amount of users who are forced to see advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I suspect ad blocking will always be an arms race. The server can only ask the client to play the ad, and then rely on the client to truthfully report whether it did so.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm sure they'll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web that allows them. It's one of the good things about projects like Gemini. I used to think it was only good for the novelty of having a web alternative protocol.

No doubt Big Tech would lobby for Microsoft to use Windows to flag Gemini browsers as malicious and then run FUD campaigns against the Gemini protocol

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

I’m sure they’ll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web

Funny you say that:

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/02/googles-plan-to-drm-the-web-goes-against-everything-google-once-stood-for/

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone will create an extension to mute the ad and overlay it with suitably timed bite sized cat videos.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 year ago (21 children)

to people saying YouTube is a moneysink for google:

yes it is, if you just look at direct expenses of running it. but you're overlooking the fact that it has enabled google to amass so much data(we're taking about 500 hours worth of videos being uploaded per minute) that they can train anything with it.

it's a service that's too big to fail. even whole governments, courts, and other institutions depend on it. so, I refuse to believe that YouTube will be non-existant because a sliver of users refuse to be profiled by invasive advertisements.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I am much, much more likely to be willing to pay for Ublock than I am YouTube.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (84 children)

I haven’t watched live tv in almost 20 years because I refuse to sit through ads, and I definitely won’t sit through them on YouTube. If it was a banner or some thing on the page or the side of video that would be more acceptable, but sitting through ads to watch a YouTube video….there’s just no way.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (19 children)

It's an end of an era. I've been on reddit for over a decade, and on youtube for even longer. Crazy to think I might be giving up both of those services within a few months of each other. Feels like the internet is dying. Oh well. Maybe I'll go back to reading a shitload.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago (26 children)

If YouTube premium was $4.99 a month it'd be worth a consideration. But then again adblocking is free and privacy respecting

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm not gonna pay for a service that harvest and sell my data

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah I could care less about people saying they'd watch ads of they were less intrusive. I'm not, I don't give a fuck about YouTube's sustainability who happened to still have major growth while I ran an AdBlock this entire time.

Maybe I'd consider paying if YouTube was the actual product I was paying for. Instead I get privacy invasive spying and my data being harvested, while am paying to do so. The product I'd want to pay for would have zero privacy invasive stuff involved. Which that isn't going to exist, so I'm never going to pay.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I couldn't* care less.

If you say "I could care less," then it means you're still caring.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I don't really know how people can even use YouTube without ad blockers. Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance. If these video ads are going to be repetitive and annoying, at least make them funny.

It seems like there is nowhere on the Internet to get away from ads currently, even here, where you thought you are safe, you are now reading an ad for my newest movie (you know the one), now also available on streaming!

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Youtube is getting on cable tv levels of bad. On a regular ~10min video you will first deal with a few preroll ads and at least one is unskippable, then the creator will have a 2+ minute sponsor segment (I don't mind those since they are usually well presented). There will also be multiple midroll ad spots.

Depending on video length, it's gonna soon be literally more ad than video. They are still stealing and selling your data though, and also making the web worse for everyone with DRM shit.

Fuck. Google.

I had already migrated to Invidious since last year because I degoogled everything. Seems like now its time to look for real youtube alternatives.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Does anyone else remember back in the days of VCR, the networks wanted to push a technology that disallows you from fast-forwarding through ad breaks on the stuff you recorded?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Holy crap

Piped is about to get another user

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (17 children)

If you're using UBlock Origin do the following:

Go to settings. Go to Filter Lists. Click purge all caches. Click update now.

That's it, this message should disappear entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't turned off ad-blocking in 20 years. That's because I "don't allow" companies to use my home and my computer as their place of business.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (7 children)

How did manipulation to make you buy specific shit become so accepted?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Because that's the goal of capitalism

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Google kind of sucks.

What was their last big success? Google maps? Pretty much everything they do lately is some combination of shitty or prematurely killed.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google more than just kind of sucks. Like you said they haven’t done shit in a long time outside of making the internet more hostile with shit like this and their planned chrome-based anti adblock (a LOT of browsers run on chromium which would bring the same shit, Mozilla4lyfe)

Also, the google graveyard is just pathetic at this point. They truly can’t do shit outside of anti-user bullshit

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

if only ads arent annoying and loud, i have no problems unblocking them. but damn, they're unbearable atleast in my region.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (11 children)

ublock origin still blocking everything.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Adblockers are eventually just going to become undetectable because of this. Adblockers are about to get so much better!

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Unpopular opinion: They should've just started charging big creators, kind of like Vimeo. Mofos be having youtube ads, sponsorships, built-in ads, courses, merch stores and patreon, and then they whine when youtube wants them to comply with advertiser's demands.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

YouTube is the cable tv of 2023

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Advertisement is brainwashing and should be against human rights.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Unpopular Opinion: I don’t like ads as much as anyone, I’d rather YouTube monetises 1440p and 4k content instead of forcing people to watch ads. YouTube is an extremely expensive business to run, so it being free forever is completely unsustainable.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Next tactic to stop adblocking: we will come to your house and break your fucking legs if you even THINK about installing ublock

Then a few days later ublock removes it

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Google recently announced that it's podcast service is shutting down and moving to YouTube music, I don't want or need YouTube music so I've already moved to Podcast Republic, it has a few ads but they can be removed with a small one off payment. Google just wants to shove all it's users into YouTube and YouTube music for maximum ads and data harvesting.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Heads up as more and more people seem to not know this lately: the overwhelming majority of podcasts are officially and legally available without having to pay for them. Traditionally a podcast was just an mp3 or video file someone posted up on their blog that could be subscribed to via a basic RSS feed.

Anyway, on Android Antenna Pod is a great free and open source app for managong podcasts and youe subscriptions to them. Can get it off F-Droid.

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