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Biologically the milk is made

because they become pregnant. not for any purpose.

you're splitting hairs.

cruelty would be doing it just to cause suffering. suffering is incidental, not the point. if we produced everything using the exact same processes without suffering, would you find that acceptable? i think everyone would say that's preferrential.

yes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn't impart volition to them.

it’s cruel

it's not.

You’re focusing on one aspect of dairy farming when there are a number of ethically unsound practices such as stealing the babies from their mothers and killing them for beef, even if not veal.

this is not inherently unethical. i can't think of a single ethical system that would say this is immoral.

, a cow makes milk

after becoming pregnant. there is no volition so cows don't make it for anything any more than they may saliva or urine for something.

they certainly want to be.

you can't be certain about this: all of the research has failed to produce evidence sufficient to support the understanding of personal mortality in non-human animals. they don't want to be alive any more than they want to die, since they don't understand the choice.

Causing suffering and harm to animals by separating them from their mothers and killing them is cruel.

I disagree this is cruel.