ambitiousslab

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Just as a warning, this is licensed under the AGPL, with a CLA that requires copyright assignment. So, they could pull the rug at any time:

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

On iPhone, I recommend Monal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

To be honest, I think the above clients and services like Snikket fit that description.

Now, I wouldn't say they're all on the same level UX-wise as WhatsApp, Telegram etc. But I do think they are 90%-95% of the way there, and in my experience that's enough to convince friends and family to switch over.

In my experience, when people haven't wanted to switch, it's normally not been because of the clients, but because they don't want to install yet another app to talk to someone.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Any new open source software is always a net positive.

But, there are a few small caveats to the way they've done it (depending on how cynical/cautious you are):

  • Because Proton are not accepting contributions, they own all the copyright, so can make the code closed source again if they want to (that wouldn't affect the already released versions, but future versions)
  • They could likely take down any derivative on iOS, since Apple will always take instruction from the copyright holder, for GPL'd code
  • Since the builds are not reproducible, there's no guarantee that the binaries they distribute are built from the source code
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do you define modern? I would call these modern clients personally:

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Perfect, now you just have to wrap your program inside a debugger in production!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'd like to second Snikket - it's designed for this use case and is very simple to set up.

If you'd rather not use Snikket, check out these recommendations for clients and servers.

Hope it works for you! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Different strokes for different folks! I've been fortunate enough that many of my family and friends have been happy enough to follow me.

But I don't disagree with you, Signal has a much more recognisable brand and better user experience. These are things that we need to improve if we're going to get anywhere near the level of adoption Signal has.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

How I Got a Truly Anonymous XMPP Account:

  • Open my client (e.g. Conversations, Monal, Dino)
  • Pick a random server, username and password
  • Click register

Sorry, it's a cheap joke, but it still baffles me that Signal requires a phone number, so I felt I had to post it :)

Of course, this is not XMPP-specific either, just my protocol of choice, there are many other open alternatives that also offer such functionality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I originally suggested Monal to my friend (who is quite into iOS and really appreciates a well designed application) and she found the same, but then she tried Siskin, and was happy enough to use it to this day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just for reference, here are my favourites on each platform.

Each support modern XMPP extensions, interoperate very nicely with each other, and (at least in my opinion) look good!

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