Stumblinbear

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They also said "everything" in the title multiple times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Progressive web apps don't work for shit on ios. Why bother developing it for Android users only when you'll need an alternative regardless?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm going to proide an opposing viewpoint: apps will always have a more native feel, have better performance, have more capabilities, and have entirely different goals compared to web apps.

  • You don't need an app to do data harvesting.

  • Users have very different expectations for websites and mobile apps. They look different, they feel different, they function different, and the UX is very different.

  • Performance performance performance. Html/css/JavaScript/browsers/whatever are incapable of competing against 60-120fps natively written apps. That sidebar drawer navigation can NEVER feel native in a browser because swiping from the left to open it either works, but takes a second to open, or forced you to go back to the last page.

  • The additional vertical real-estate cannot be understated.

  • It is a lot more effort to deal with differing browser behavior on the web. Adding mobile experience into that is even more annoying. Developers work on a desktop and will forget about mobile devices at literally every possible moment.

  • You have zero control and a user can leave at a moment's notice even in the middle of critical flows. In an app, you can quick store this information away or continue it in the background. On desktop, you have zero chance to react to it since the browser will destroy-the-world the moment the user wants to go away, which leads to a ton of defensive programming, more chances for errors, and lower performance overall. Death by a thousand cuts.

I'm a developer, if you hadn't been able to tell. I am responsible for mobile responsivity on the website and it's a massive goddamn pain in my ass every waking hour of the day, and fixing it definitively is impossible with the actively hostile browser landscape leading to whack-a-mole bugfixing that needs to be done. I also point to my previous point of "devs forget about mobile constantly." I'm tired. Don't even get me started on the fixes for one browser breaking literally every other browser, leading to complete refactors of layout being necessary. This has happened more than a few times in the last year alone.

I'm actively pushing for a mobile app because we have complete end-to-end control of the experience. If something works, it just works, and it won't be broken on a random Friday or Sunday when google or apple decides to push an update to their shitty fucking browser that breaks half of the site with less than zero notice. iOS is especially fucking terrible in this regard. Every single update to safari brings horrendously breaking changes that fuck my life up.

Playing to the higher-ups by enticing them with top-of-mind awareness and having a place on their homepage is a means to an end. I want my life to not be shitty fucking web dev. When something works, I just want it to work and not require checking against every single browser in existence dated back seven years because people don't update.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wasn't trying to "get" anyone. It's genuine curiosity. Christ, dude. Send your toxic-ass Reddit attitude back to that shitty platform it belongs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There will always be a market for the "real thing"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You've tracked them, but that doesn't mean you've followed up at every second of every day to see if the company still exists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I literally said "as far as we understand the term." We as humans and as we define the term. They do not have consciousness based on what we currently know, and there's very little evidence that they do based on what experiments we are able to conduct. I'm not saying they unequivocally don't, all I'm saying is as we currently understand the term they do not.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I literally said "as far as we understand the term." Sentience, sapience, and consciousness are not interchangable terms; they have vastly different meanings.

We as humans and as we have defined the terms do not label any other species as conscious as we currently understand the term. Consciousness is currently a uniquely human trait. It's not my decision, it's just what we know and how we've labeled things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The content of the piece is revealing, but yes the headline is absolutely textbook clickbait

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder how much of that is Google being worse and you making more complex searches because you're older

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

To be clear, if you don't make enough in tips to reach minimum wage, your employer pays the difference

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