FriendlySir777

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you very much for the suggestion! As I mentioned in other comments, an all-flash NAS would be perfect, but unfortunately, prices here are much higher. For example, a single Samsung 990 EVO 2TB costs around 150 euros, so three of them would total ~450 euros. Adding the motherboard, RAM, PSU, and case, I'd be over the budget :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, I saw that in the manual. My concern was whether the 4-pin onboard SATA power connector could supply enough amperage for the HDDs, especially during spin-up. However, since ASRock includes the cable in the package, it should be fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Thank you! How much power does your Optiplex draw when idle? Also, how many 3.5" drives can it fit?

One concern I have with repurposing old enterprise workstations is the lack of warranty. As I mentioned in another comment, if something breaks, buying new hardware means I can easily send it back for a replacement...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, an SSD-only NAS would be the dream, but as I mentioned in another comment, it's out of my budget, one 4TB SSD costs as much as two HDDs :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Thank you! I plan to run my web services in Docker containers, I can't even imagine running them all in the same context, haha. That said, I don't think I need full-fledged VMs, which is why I'm leaning toward a simpler setup without Proxmox or similar.

You're absolutely right that RAID isn't a backup! That's one of the reasons I'm still unsure whether I actually need redundancy. Having RAID would be convenient for quickly replacing a failed HDD and continuing to use the data without interruption. However, this server will mostly serve as an archive, so if something fails, I can wait a few days to restore the data from a backup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Thanks! Yes, I've considered second-hand hardware, especially mini PCs like the one you linked, for their low power consumption. The issue for me is that they typically only have one SATA port and no space for 3.5" HDDs (only 2.5"). As you mentioned, I could probably take the board out of the case, but can it be mounted in a standard ATX case? The board layout doesn't seem to follow standard dimensions...

In fact, I already have a mini PC (an MSI Cubi 2 with an i3-7100) that I sometimes use. I'm sure it's fairly power-efficient, but again, it only has room for one 2.5" HDD, which limits its usefulness for a NAS setup :(

Another concern I have with second-hand hardware is what happens if something breaks. Is there any warranty? With new hardware, I can simply send it back and get a replacement, which gives me more peace of mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you! Yeah, the R1 is very tempting, but 14W with the HDDs spun down is a little higher than I’d ideally like. Still, it's reassuring to hear that it's been reliable for you.

By the way, can you tell me more about the mini UPS you mentioned? It sounds like a great addition, especially for providing backup power to both my router and the NAS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Thank you! Yeah, I considered NUCs and mini PCs in general as well. The issue is that, like laptops, they typically support only one drive out of the box. Adding more drives often requires hacky solutions or relying on USB drives, but I'd prefer to avoid USB and stick with SATA for a more reliable setup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, I know Proxmox can be used to run LXC containers, and admittedly having the option to run a VM if necessary could definitely be useful. I’ll give it some more thought, thanks for pointing that out!

As for the budget, yes, it includes the drives. I’m aiming to spend around €500 for everything (NAS + drives). I don’t own the drives yet, so I’ll need to buy everything from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you! The R1 was actually the first option I considered, as it has all the benefits of a prebuilt NAS like Synology, plus it allows for a custom OS, which is great. I’m just a little concerned about long-term reliability. Also, is it quiet? I read that you can replace the bottom fan with a Noctua fan, but I’m not sure if it supports PWM.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes! I watched that video, and that solution would be almost perfect. However, an all-flash NAS is out of my budget, a single 4TB SSD (even a cheaper one) costs about the same as two HDDs :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you! When I set up the server with the old netbook I mentioned in the post, it was mainly because of the built-in UPS, which was very convenient.

However, the main issue with laptops is that they typically only support one drive at most. I know it's possible to hack something together with splitters or external boards, but I’m not a fan of relying on a hacky solution for something like this. Plus, the server will be placed in a visible area of my house, so I need to consider aesthetics as well and go with something that looks at least somewhat nice.

 

Hey,

I'm working on building a compact, efficient, and budget-friendly home server to centralize my scattered data and host a few lightweight services.

Currently, my data is spread across multiple hard drives, and accessing it is a hassle. A while back, I set up a home server using an old netbook running Debian and a few Docker containers. It was a fun Linux learning experience, but not a long-term solution (its RAM can’t be expanded beyond 2 GB, and its CPU is too weak). So, I guess it’s time for an actual dedicated server machine!

Budget: Around €500, including storage (I’m in Europe, btw)

Requirements:

  • Centralized storage for data, photos, and phone backups
  • Run lightweight containers for web services like Immich, Paperless-ngx, Pi-hole, and custom services I’ve developed
  • Occasionally download Linux ISOs (I use and delete them; the whole *arr stack would be overkill for my needs)
  • No need for virtualization (so no Proxmox, TrueNAS, or Unraid); a plain Debian install with Docker should suffice (or maybe I could use OpenMediaVault)
  • No closed OS: I’m not interested in Synology, QNAP, or similar. I want full control to install and customize my OS

Goals:

  • Low power consumption: ≤10 watts idle without HDDs would be ideal (this is my number-one priority)
  • Low noise
  • Compact size: space is limited, so it needs to be small (I also don’t need a huge case for just a couple of drives)

Ideas:

  • DIY Option (ASRock N100DC-ITX):
    • CPU + Mobo: ASRock N100DC-ITX (~€138)
    • RAM: Kingston ValueRAM 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 Non-ECC CL22 (€32.99)
    • SSD (for OS and containers): Patriot P320 128GB NVMe PCIe Gen 3x4 (€15.99)
    • PSU: LEICKE PSU 19V, 4.74A, 90W (€19.99)
    • Case: Sharkoon QB ONE (€50)
    • Total: ~€257
    • Concerns: Will the 4-pin connector on the board be able to power two HDDs? ASRock includes a cable to power 2 HDDs in the package, so it should be fine, and I don’t plan on adding more drives
  • DIY Option (ODROID H4+):
    • CPU + Mobo: ODROID H4+ (€196)
    • RAM: Crucial RAM 16GB 4800MHz DDR5 Non-ECC CL40 (€48.90)
    • SSD (for OS and containers): Patriot P320 128GB NVMe PCIe Gen 3x4 (€15.99)
    • PSU: LEICKE PSU 19V, 4.74A, 90W (€19.99)
    • Case: ODROID H4+ Case Type 4 (€44.90)
    • Accessories: 2x SATA data and power cables (€14.00)
    • Total: ~€340
    • Concerns: I’m unsure about reliability and updates, and with 2 HDDs, it’s out of my budget
  • Prebuilt Option (AOOSTAR R1):
    • Specs: N100, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB NVMe
    • Total: ~€238
    • Concerns: Power consumption might be higher than the ASRock and ODROID boards; I’m unsure about its reliability and updates; I've read that it can get noisy and heat up

Storage:

For storage, I’m planning to use two 4 TB HDDs (Seagate IronWolf, ~€120 each) in a mirrored configuration. I’m considering ZFS for its compression, deduplication, snapshots, and bit rot protection. However, I’m unsure if I really need RAID since I’ll perform regular backups.

Questions:

  1. Which of these options would you recommend?
  2. Are there better hardware options within my budget that meet my power/noise/size goals?
  3. Do you have other suggestions for hardware or software I might have overlooked?

Any advice or feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance :)

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