DreitonLullaby

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool, yeah that's fair enough. I was unsure about sharing my own channel here too, considering I'm very careful about my privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's referring to the memberships you can begin as a monthly donation to specific creators, not the Premium subscription that directly supports Odysee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

There is moderation, the ability to report content and comments, and community guidelines. Odysee having a complete lack of moderation is a myth, and I have personally had content removed by moderators before by reporting it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've never cared to generate income on my own channel, so I'm not sure how all of it works. But the main way that I know of is through channel tips. There's a ($ Support) button below every channel and content upload, which lets you directly tip the creator. You can use Patreon or anything else if you want to, but the functionality is built in. Odysee gets a 5% cut of all the tips sent to channels. There may be other ways of making money, but I'm not aware of what they might be.

Edit: Heres's their help page about monetization: https://help.odysee.tv/category-monetization/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Awesome! What's your channel?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

They also earn money from the optional premium subscriptions, the 5% cut from channel donations, and 100% of the donations sent directly to them. The way the direct donations work is by going to a video, and just below it, clicking the "$ Support" button and making the donation either via cash or LBC. That's an option for all channels on the platform.

Otherwise, I don't know the ins-and-outs of how the decentralised blockchain system works, but they do not have to host all of the sites content themselves, as it is also voluntarily hosted by other users. I'm not sure how this works at the moment; it previously worked by being a user of the LBRY Desktop app, but after the LBRY company shut down, and the LBRY app went away, I'm not sure how other people host the pieces of that content anymore. They are moving away from the LBRY blockchain protocol, over to the Arweave protocol, so I imagine they will bring out an Arweave app that may replace the LBRY app which that was used previously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It does. You can get it on the Google Play Store or F-Droid. F-Droid version is very outdated though. You can always officially get the latest version directly from apk.odysee.tv.

I only found out about that link to the latest version a few days ago, and I was previously using the F-Droid version to avoid using Google services. I don't know how much better the latest version is, but my experience with the very outdated F-Droid version was that the app was very slow and laggy. I heard that performance tends to be quite good or terrible depending on your phone; my phone is just a cheap android phone from a few years ago, so it makes sense it didn't run well for me. I haven't tested the latest version yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm glad my reaching out has helped find people who've never heard of it. It's got quite a lot of users, but has been growing very slowly in user-base the last few years, simply due to not enough people talking about it and allowing natural growth of the platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well if you report a video about a conspiracy theory for example, it won't be removed unless it directly promotes or incites violence or hatred toward a particular person or group(s) if people. You may not like the content, but if it does not break the rules specifically laid out in the guidelines, it is not grounds for removal. The platforms goal is to allow as much free speech as is reasonable (and legal), not to allow people to say absolutely anything they want with no repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thanks. It was probably because you said you used a cryptocurrency, and "You use crypto; crypto bad". I got a down-vote too, probably for the same reason of saying I wanted to pay with Monero.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Edit: I now know that this banner is not an ad for Odysee's premium subscriptions as it may seem to be. Memberships are separate to Premium entirely. Memberships are like the "Join" button you find on YouTube, where you pay a donation to that specific content creator and may get bonuses such as a badge next to your name in the comments, early access to videos, etc. depending on what benefits the creator chose themselves. Odysee only gets a 5% cut from this. This is completely justified as being the only thing that is arguably an ad on the site, as it is purely there to help creators thrive on the platform, and it can also be hidden permanently by clicking the X at the top-right of the banner; so they aren't even being forceful about it either. The ads being removed were mainly referring to the pop-up ads that third-parties could place on the website.

 

Odysee, a decentralised YouTube alternative focused on free speech, is officially ending the serving of ads on the platform, starting today. The post:

"Dear friends of Odysee, Starting today, we're removing all ads. We don't need ads to make money as a platform and we are confident in the development of our own new monetisation programs that will help creators earn a living and at the same time keep Odysee alive. Ultimately, sacrificing the overall user experience to make a few bucks isn't worth it to us and nor is it even sustainable for a platform that wishes to make something truly open and creatively free.

As we take this decision, one thing is certain to us, media platforms (even ones that market themselves as 'free-speech') typically devolve into advertising companies and end up becoming beholden to their paymasters. It's been that way for centuries and is never going to change.

As we see YouTube become more aggressive with their ad deployment and 'Free Speech' platforms try to build their own ad businesses it's apparent to us that we're building a model for Odysee that will keep it sustainable not only financially, but in its ability to provide an incorruptible user experience.

Our approach may be considered niche or unconventional, that's fine by us. Odysee will be used by the world on terms that are agreeable to its users, and we know our users don't like ads.

Best, Founder & Creator, Chief Executive Officer. Julian Chandra"

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Edit: Changed the link to lead to the original Odysee article post which contains the video, rather than just to the video itself. You get more context and information that way.

 

I can't find any articles or posts talking about this anywhere, so I just wanted to share a post about it. I received an email on July 2 from Afterpay about an upcoming change to the privacy policy which will take affect on August 1, 2024. I used a website to compare the text of the old policy with the text of the new, and found that they are now introducing targeted advertising. They harvest personal information about you and share them with third-parties and partners in order to serve you with personalized ads within the Afterpay app. They track information such as your spending habits and how you interact with their marketing messages, and they now also combine all of your personal information they have collected about you to profile you, they also get information about you from third-parties. Quoted from the updated policy:

Information from third parties about you, such as identity, preferences and inferences about you...

Just wanted to share this, since I can't find any discussion of it online. Here's a link to the policies if you want to check it out. These are Wayback Machine links.

Current Policy (As of April 2, 2024)

Upcoming Policy (Effective Aug 1, 2024)

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The whole manifest v3 announcement happened years ago and it's been at least a year since the whole timeline...

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