Yikes. Amazon must really hate that their employees might be able to use the bathroom without their knowledge and permission, huh?
this post was submitted on 17 Nov 2023
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Hate that their employees are not under their thumbs
So desperate for control, pathetic
They can take the "may" out of that verbiage because they have been proven to do this already.
They "may" lose employees to other companies that pay the same but offer WFH.
They do exist. I've been wfh since ~2006
Hell I'm willing to work for less, much less, if it means WFH.
Those jobs pay more, not less. They trust you more so they give you more leeway.
I fully agree with your sentiment.
But the frustrating reality that Amazon is exploiting is almost no other companies pay as much as Amazon and allow full remote work. Even less if you're one of the thousands of people on a work visa.
The progression isn't Amazon -> normal role at normal company, it's Amazon -> high growth startup or company that will worship your knowledge. Startups have a higher ceiling and the major company role may be more prestigious.
Amazon is going to push their best people out the door.
All my colleagues who left faang companies to go to startups with big offers (and better titles) have lost out massively on comp becauss VC dried up and rsus are worthless.
One guy lost 90% of his rsu value. Another guy got straight up laid off. A third person I know lost about 75% of their offer in stock price declines in early 2023.
I agree that it's often exciting (and easy) to be exceptional at a smaller company, but in my experience it's almost never financially beneficial.
That's how startups are. You accept more risk. Startups are the definition of risky and this is not an argument for staying at a company that doesn't listen to you.
You can always just move to a different startup. People respect you more in the startup world if you take a risk and lose due to factors beyond your control.
Say what you will about the mandate itself, but do many employers promote employees not following mandates? I get just get fired if not following mandates. Most often mandates are mandated. Ive never knowingly been on a date with a man, but if I did it would also be a mandate.
When you have in demand skills you can get away with more.
Sounds like something a sketchy man would say on a mandate.
As if anyone's getting a promotion..
K, so I'll keep my current job and stay home instead I guess?
That's my plan. I'm sitting here staring at a principal promotion in the face and I'm not sure I want it. I'm ridiculously overburdened as it is, and I'm not sure I can take more of that. So, I guess I'll keep staying home until they force me to find a job somewhere else.
While surfing for another job 😜
Sounds like a sure way to loose talent.
I'm sure if you shake their employee pool enough a few should come loose.
oh no