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[–] [email protected] 93 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really, the fact that they still have working adblockers makes it faster. Sitting through a minute of ads is way more noticable than a second or two of delay.

And the reason they work still is because they empower the users to use it how they want, instead of how corporate can monetize them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

than a second or two of delay.

The differences between Chromium And Firefox are for years now in the range of milliseconds.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago

I thought the browser, my computer or something was slowing down. Turns out I just had way too many ublock rules.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Where they really need to improve performance is on mobile. On my old phone, I never really noticed how bad it was aside from the high energy usage reported by Android for Firefox. I recently got a new phone tho, which has a 120hz screen and yesterday I tried Cromite, a Chromium fork for Android, which improves privacy and adds adblock. I tested it against Firefox (Mull to be precise), which is what I use as my default browser, and I noticed that scrolling pages was way smoother on Cromite. First I thought that maybe Firefox is just running on 60hz but scrolling through settings and the like was perfectly smooth, just webpages felt laggy. This means that Firefox is simply very slow at rendering pages on mobile, to the point that it can't keep up with my screens refresh rate at all.

Firefox on desktop is great and I really wanna use it on mobile too but I'm honestly contemplating just switching to Cromite. The only feature I'm missing in Cromite, that I can get for Firefox with the extension Libredirect, is redirecting to privacy respecting and lightweight frontends / proxies, like Reddit to Libreddit but it might be possible to add a userscript to Cromite with that functionality.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did you try with firefox on mobile rather than Mull?

I don't know if it will make a difference but Mull is quite recent and focus on privacy first then usability and does way more than adblock and few privacy enhancement.

I don't know the benchmark but it would not surprise if Mull was slower than Firefox.

I'm using Firefox on mobile and I'm not really seeing a difference but I'm on an older phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Just tested it with normal Firerox and surprisingly, that is actually smooth. Maybe it's just an extension.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I'm using regular Firefox and its still the same, pages take too long to load or they randomly reload if left unattended. It feels like a browser from the early era of mobile apps with a coat of paint, and yeah it has only existed for a few years

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I also have a 120hz display and use Fennec and can state that it works smoothly and scrolling feels like 120hz.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I just tried normal Firefox and that seems to be as smooth as expected. Maybe it was just an extension.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For me it’s unusable on desktop too! Edge and Chrome just have so much nicer animations it’s like a paper cut every time I click on the UI in Firefox

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Firefox supports CSS themes tho, you can install something like this, for example, to make it look like Chrome. I haven't tried it myself but it probably has the animations as well. If you're on GNOME there's also a Firefox GNOME theme.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Firefox is faster at loading webpages and content than Chrome, and thats without adblockers. The only thing Chrome is good at is being a webapp and spyware platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

And web based serial connections, though that may fall into the web app category.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I felt this. Last year I pretty much avoided firefox because it just wasnt performant enough, but since this year they've really improved things.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago

Not fake users?