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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm really surprised people still run windows. Sure, it works, but it's really really annoying.

But yes, people don't care, I know.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

How about you galaxy brain "just switch to linux" people actually give some helpful advice? Clearly there's a registry edit that can be made for Windows users that would take all of 5 seconds to complete, rather than an entire week formatting, installing, reconfiguring an entirely new OS that also requires a degree of command line knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spend a "week" installing mosquito net >> spend 5 sec for each mosquito

I don't want to force anyone to use Linux, but everyone have the choice, to have a better experience.

No, it doesn't takes a week to install nor endless time of os configurations nor galaxy brain, in 2023.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And most games work, and most programs work, and for the rare ones that don’t you can use a Windows VM as long as you have just enough attention span to sit through a youtube tutorial

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, it's frustrating when they're smug about it but I'd argue that suggesting an alternative where this issue doesn't happen is helpful advice even if you don't agree with it. I do agree that 'just switch to linux' is a gross oversimplification as there will be some growing pains and there are a few hurdles that may at present be unsurmountable. I also find it amusing that you present digging up registry hacks and fighting for control over your system for the rest of time to be easier than a modern linux installer that takes about 5 minutes to click through the gui with no command line knowledge needed. I guess the point is that you should use whatever you're comfortable with, but if you haven't tried linux in a while you might find it to be less of a fight than windows is becoming.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This... is actually true. I'll concede that even as recently as 4, 5 years ago it might have not been entirely true, but now it is - Linux has become so accessible (look at Mint, Pop_OS) while Windows has (somehow) become even more hostile to its user base to the point that an average user would actually have an easier time switching than staying in the long term. I didn't think I'd be able to write this with a straight face, but I honestly think this is now true.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

How about you galaxy brain "just switch to linux" people actually give some helpful advice?

Ok: https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I use Windows for gaming but if we need an in-depth technical solution every time Microsoft comes up with some new annoying BS, maybe Linux users have a point to suggest something else. It's not like the Registry is exactly intuitive to the average user.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The person asks to get rid of these messages, there is no fucking way, it's their platform, their rules, deal with it or leave it.

So stfu with your whiney "why Microsoft" posts and do something about it.

You get rid of 50 messages and 300 will come a week after that, they are knowing what they're doing.

The next feature upgrade will reset your little PowerShell scripts anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like Linux and used it as my only OS for a decade but I play games and have to use MS Office. But thanks

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Microsoft will never stop developing new ways to be anticompetitive leeches on society. You learn how to use one debloating tool, they'll take the developer of that debloating tool to court and have it pulled from circulation. You learn what registry key to edit, they'll change it. You get used to a menu, they'll remove it.

You have a choice: 1, You can continue that arms race with a monstrous evil megacorp, which you will continue to lose, or 2, you can switch to a platform that doesn't treat you this way in the first place.

Linux Mint among many others has a feature complete GUI which will provide anything the average user needs, including a graphical app "store" for installing software. The desktop paradigm is quite similar to Windows, it will be mostly familiar. The CLI is frankly easier to deal with than Windows' endless and redundant series of settings menus and applications. When someone asks for help on a text-based forum like StackOverflow or Reddit or Lemmy, it's easier to tell them "Open a terminal and copy-paste lshw -f" than it is to tell them "Open the Start menu and click Programs > Administration >Regedit then look for a thing that says win11embraceextendextinguish and toggle that from 1 to 0, and do this after every update because it automatically changes it back."

Linux does not require a week to install. Windows does. My father bought a new Dell about the time I built my little Ryzen box I'm typing this on. It took him over a week to wipe the factory Win 10 Dell Bloatware Edition image for vanilla Win 10, fuck around with drivers, then manually go to individual software websites, download installers, run them, haul out CDs and DVDs and install software (including Office 2010, the damned old chad) one at a time, then restore a backup of his files...He was actively engaged with this task for over a week. I had it done in about three hours, most of which I actually spent trimming my hedges while waiting for files to download or transfer from an external HDD. It was a 100% GUI process; I didn't open a terminal throughout.

Sure, Linux is different than Windows and this will take some learning. Just like Windows does every time they come out with a new version and you have to learn where they arbitrarily rearranged basic functions to this time. When I switched to Linux a decade ago, it was a similar process in going from Win 98 to Win XP, or XP to 7. Except after awhile the basic reorientation finished, and I started learning new things.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sorry to be that guy: Install Linux?

But seriously: l'd like to know as well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate this response but it was my first thought this time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worst part is that its not a bad response. Linux mint is such a good alternative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I ditched Windows for a Linux Mint just over a month ago. Best decision.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I ditched Linux Mint for TempleOS. The holiest decision I've ever made.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

But seriously: another comment here points out some tool

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Came here to make this (half)joke.

Sadly, it's not just a joke, it's also the only way to actually do this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not such a joke for about 70 percent of the people who use a computer. All most people do is use the internet, write a document or two and check their email (most of the time using a web based service).

All of which can be done by any OS.

The only reason anyone would want Microsoft is if they specifically ran a program that required Windows .... most will say that MS Word runs better on Windows which is true but most people I know write or view the most basic documents that any word processing software is more than adequate.

And even if MS word is required by your school or work ... get them to pay for the OS and the word processing software.

Otherwise, the majority of the people I know with a computer only use it as a glorified tablet to access the internet and browse social media .... all of which can be done with the most basic Linux distro that won't hassle you with annoying popups asking you to do things you shouldn't even be thinking about.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Write a complaint to the CMA about Microsoft’s anti-competitive and anti-consumer behavior.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Use software like shutupwin10 or various other open source debloat scripts to remove a shit-ton of annoying features in windows. Or, as lemmy galaxy-brains would have it, JuSt uSe LiNuX

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wait, you had this WHILE using chrome on win10? Jesus

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

These popups have disappeared from my devices for over 3 years but then again i'm using linux

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Got this via Mastodon which will not let me search for the source.

If you're in the US, when you set up Windows for the first time, select English (Europe) or English (World), not English (US). That will stop it installing all the bloatware that USians are not protected from but everyone else is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's definitely a US thing, I'm on English (Singapore) and have not seen an ad, ever. I was perplexed by all the complaints of ads in the start menu and wherever, until someone pointed to me that it was a US thing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've never seen this appear. Is this in chrome? Anyway, like some people here have suggested, you can use a debloater script or something similar. I personally use O&O Shutup10. Hopefully enabling some options in there would work. Or you could just accept it and then change your search engine back to whatever you use lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Perhaps use redirect scripts or plugins or apps. Windows often about registry so do try that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You could try clicking Yes once, and then immediately switching it back, either to DuckDuckGo or Google.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DoNotSpy is a tool that can disable all the Win10-11 bloatware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

THIS IS AN ANSWER. Everyone gotta jump in and throw fanboyism over their favourite OS or browser, but no one answers OP. Do better Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My suggestion is to download something like Windows Privacy Dashboard and disabling/uninstalling as much telemetry options as possible.

I've never got that kind of ad push, so i have to ask where you got it? Was it from using the search bar beside the start button? If so, maybe completely disabling and uninstalling Cortana might fix it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I also got it today after a win 11 security update

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

use a service like o&o shutup that'll cripple this among other bloat.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As others have said, there's going to be some registry setting you can change to negate this. Short term, this should work, but may need to be repeated if any updates revert the change.

The long term solution is to just stop using Windows, because it's clear Microsoft is intent on turning it into a bloated, ad-infested piece of trash.

Windows 7 (or arguably XP) was the last decent version of Windows, in my opinion. Once I saw what was coming next, I started dabbling in Linux. Now I use Linux most of the time. It's definitely a big change, and there's a lot of new stuff to learn, but I love having an operating system that doesn't look like a corporate junk mailer pamphlet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Where/when does this popup come up? Is it in your browser, is it a Windows notification?

The most recent time I think I saw this was the latest Windows 11 update, but you can just click No and it goes away. Microsoft is being annoying persistent about getting people to use Bing now because of ChatGPT and Edge though. Hopefully there is a limit, if not the annoying Linux recommendations might actually start to have some merit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Om Windows 10 you have the option to turn off showing news about new features. I guess it would cover this. Try Google it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Stop using Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I forget the name of it, but I remember there is (or at least used to be) a tool that would give you more granular control over the stuff that's under the hood of Windows.

If you search for "Windows God mode tool" or something along those lines, your should be able to find it.

Not sure if this will get rid of your pop-up modal specifically, but it might allow you to mess with other configurations that can prevent these sorts of things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Chris Titus ultimate windows tool.

Best third party tool ever.

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