It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.
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Good news on the latter front, actually: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmc-expands-investments-in-the-u-s-to-usd165-billion-with-new-fabs-and-r-and-d-center-a-closer-look
Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it. And that would open up some interesting opportunities, nahmean?
It’s what I’d do if I were an ambitious, resource hoarding, ass pimple billionaire.
It’s obvious the way to Trump’s heart is to tell him he’s pretty and give him something .
Yeah make him a custom iPhone with a unibody out of pure gold?
You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.
It really depends on what Trump means by " built in the US". It won't be that big of a jump if Apple is just assembling them there. If every component has to come from the US it's likely impossible.
Apple is vertically integrated in a way many companies are not. It would be bad for them for sure but they already have really high profit margins. They could eat the cost and assemble in the US, but they won't because they are already a velban good.
you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.
NEVER.
a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?
let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.
the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?
so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.
and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.
all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.
Most of the Iphone is not Chinese, the screens are made by Samsung in Korea, and the chips are from Taiwan. Only the fiddly final assembly is done in China.
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Based on the numbers from Purism, it could be a lot more than 25% more expensive to manufacture everything in USA. Purims Librem 5 costs 799 $, while the made-in-America version costs 1999 $. That's roughly a 2.5x difference. Obviously, economies of scale play a role too but let's assume that the same factor applies to iPhones too. If so, the fanciest iPhone would cost about 4000 $.
too lazy to check but does the "made in America" version have all its parts also made in America? coz i doubt it. if not, each and every part made outside the US would also get tariffed.
No, the US Purism phone is not 100% American.
They have a different supply chain for it where European manufacturers are used for some parts.
But some things are only made in China. So I think what was said is Purism source some of the raw materials for these items and have them made to a higher tolerance for reliability.
It's because Donald can't envisage the supply chain for anything more complex than a Trump flag or a MAGA hat.
In his mind, housewives can be knocking iPhones out in Bumfuck, Mississippi.
Excuse me, sir. There is no town in Mississippi called "Bumfuck". That town is firmly within the boundaries of Iowa.
Mississippi would never stoop to the level of Iowa in having Bumfuck, Iowa. Mississippi is more elegant in its nomenclature. Thus, if you wish to make a point about a town in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi, please respect Mississippi by referring to such a town as Cousin-Hump, Mississippi. Thank you.
Fun you should bring up his merch because literally all of it is Chinese or Indian produced.
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We don't even have silicon availability. I don't mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.
We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It's just not feasible.
and expanding railways
Do it.
Rest assured if they fix the rail system or will be to put us in cattle cars on a rather unfun one way trip.
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Bro really went off on him…
John Oliver did a segment on this about a month ago, but yeah, you just nailed it.
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Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."
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This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.
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Looks like Apple is balking at paying the required bribe.
I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.
Then again, if you're that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don't have those things, maybe you shouldn't be rich.
That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn't even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.
Tim Apple wipes his ass with million dollar bills.
It is, perhaps, the only thing he touches that is made in the USA.
Trump has become schizophrenic again.
Trump has a lot that seems might be wrong with him, but schizophrenia never really seemed to be on the list. Narcissism, dementia, psycho-/socio-pathy, compulsive lying, and possibly more, but I've never gotten the feeling he displayed the hyperpatternicity I associate with schizophrenia.
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It sounds like he thinks the word "tariff" just means "payment". Then he follows that with "[whoever he thinks should make the payment]". Tariff by Apple, Tariff by China, etc. Honestly. I don't know how else you can make it make sense.
he makes it sound like the manufacturers pay the tarriff so his moron supporters think it's a good idea.
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Do it to everyone, I dare you. Nerds get heated. Please it will end sooner for him.
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Even with tariffs it's still not financially viable to Apple to bring manufacturing to the U.S. and if they still decided to it would take 10to 15 years to get going. It ain't gonna happen. Sad oompa-loompa.
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Who is Tim Cook of Apple? Why does it sound like Trump is talking about Tim Apple?
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Trump on his way to make Android phones more popular (they're not as highly tariffed)
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Coming this fall: the new iPhone Republican edition (iPhone RE)
-cheaper construction and materials, yet somehow features a higher price tag -tons of backdoors (this time, intentional) -only connects to approved propaganda sites -reports all biometric data to the GOP -zaps you whenever it detects a thought the party dislikes -integrates with neurolink (not optional, you sick deviant)
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What the hell is with the "Thank you for your attention to this matter?"
You're shitposting to a global media audience, not politely asking Facilities to restock the vending machine with Snickers bars.
Are you just in full Business Guy Autocomplete mode? A Bigly Language Model?
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