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As part of its efforts, the bloc has repeatedly introduced its Chat Control legislation, aimed at weakening the encryption that protects messaging services and force providers to provide a client-side backdoor for law enforcement.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

If anyone were really worried about privacy, all internet related companies would be in bankruptcy. Apple? Meta? Google? SnapChat? Reddit? You name it, their whole purpose is collecting the personal data of their users.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, what now?

There is no place on this earth with better privacy protection laws

Yeah, it's still far from perfect but to call ot the greatest threat is just disingenuous, it's a lie. It's shouting FIRE in a movie theater because someone smokes. Stop doing this shit

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Accidental self-own admitting to everyone you haven’t been paying attention to the EU’s aggressive software backdoor agenda.

If you don’t have privacy from the government, you don’t have privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If you don’t have privacy from the government, you don’t have privacy.

Privacy refers to more than just privacy regarding the government.

Your threat model and situation might mean that if the government knows something, its as bad as if every single person knows it.

But this isn't for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

EU has the best privacy laws, only behind Switzerland.

They will not be close to the greatest threat, but it will still be a step back.

Also, these are proposals that has not been voted in ever before. So be sure to vote for politicians that wont, so we can keep it that way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Privacy from whom? Privacy from corporations means nothing if you have zero privacy from a neoliberal corporate government.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Right. Let's start by the right to privacy written in the constitution. A constitution is not for companies/corporations/enterprises/zaibatsus/gafam/moral entities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

True, but most of the Europeans dont have those governments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Which of them are blocking EU attempts to mandate government backdoors?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/

He put the ones who didnt vote 'in favour', that's why it didnt pass.

But you can see who's directly opposing.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

The title is missing a second part: "after China, the US, Russia, the UK, etc.".

I get that privacy is potentially in danger if chatcontrol passes (ie. it's not right now) and that to raise awareness is worthwhile, but misrepresenting one of the best places privacy-wise as "one of the greatest threats" is just dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The EU is interesting because there is the GDPR that has good data privacy protection but then they keep bringing up chat control which completely undermines privacy

[–] [email protected] 26 points 22 hours ago

"They" being some proponents starting with Ylva Johansson, but it's also true that they have never had a majority to actually make chat control happen. They keep trying, but "they" are not the EU as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Because they support limited privacy from corporations, but zero privacy from government. The neoliberals don’t consider that a double standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

No, those countries are not enshrining in law the requirement for backdoors to serve your own government, for which you’ll be required to comply.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

None of those countries are trying to dismantle encryption entirely so no, I disagree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Well, the UK sure is trying, and the US was also thinking about it (never got to law-making at least)

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

in other news: big tech oligarchy takes aim at EU privacy laws.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Through Sweden. If they want to pass this, they can commit Swexit.

Literally no other country (including Germany, which wanted to be in the Five Eyes) has ever proposed this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Both are true

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Non sensationalist broligarch funded shitrag version.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly not my coinage, I stole it from someone. :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

That's OK. In this context theft is art.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When does this stupid joke of a EU law end....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago

Never probably, these are law proposals.

They have never been voted in, as the majority of EU doesnt want them.

So makes sure to vote in politicans that wont, so we can keep it that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

In a world where the Great Firewall and the Five Eyes exist? Sure buddy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I hope that the current insufferability of US realities will help shed this law from our fates

[–] [email protected] -3 points 14 hours ago

You always have to balance it with law enforcement. Being at the mercy of criminals, life savings stolen by scammers, etc is not freedom.