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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't even know this was a feature. My understanding has always been that Echo devices work as follows.

  1. Store a constant small buffer of the past few seconds of audio
  2. Locally listen for the wake word (typically "Alexa") using onboard hardware. (This is why you cannot use arbitrary wake words.)
  3. Upon hearing the wake word, send the buffer from step one along with any fresh audio to the cloud to process what was said.
  4. Act on what was said. (Turn lights on or off, play Spotify, etc.)

Unless they made some that were able to do step 3 locally entirely I don't see this as a big deal. They still have to do step 4 remotely.

Also, while they may be "always recording" they don't transmit everything. It's only so if you say "Alexaturnthelightsoff" really fast it has a better chance of getting the full sentence.

I'm not trying to defend Amazon, and I don't necessarily think this is great news or anything, but it doesn't seem like too too big of a deal unless they made a lot of devices that could parse all speech locally and I didn't know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

It was a non advertised feature only available in the US and in English only

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

If you traveled back in time and told J. Edgar Hoover that in the future, the American public voluntarily wire-tapped themselves, he would cream his frilly pink panties.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How disheartening. I knew going in that there would be privacy issues but I figured for the service it was fine. I also figure my phone is always listening anyway.

As someone with limited mobility, my echo has been really nice to control my smart devices like lights and TV with just my voice.

Are there good alternatives or should I just accept things as they are?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There aren't any immediate drop in replacements that won't require some work, but there is Home Assistant Voice - It just requires that you also have a Home Assistant server setup, which is the more labor intensive part. It's not hard, just a lot to learn.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Great, they made it public.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

No way! The microphones you put all over your house are listening to you? What a shocker!
If you bought these this is on you. Trash them now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I honestly have no idea why anyone who cares even 1% about their privacy would have ever bought one of these abominations in the first place. If I ever receive one as a gift I will burn it with fire.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Only a fool would put an Amazon listening device in their home.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Amazon employee with no piss breaks listening in on my echo:

"How many fucking cats does this guy have? Just chose one name and call it that!"

Edit: "I don't know Jeff, sell him a fucking dr seuss book or something the guys mental."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

To the recycling bin you go, Alexa

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

And people wonder why I never bought any of these kinds of things.

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