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After shunning scientist, University of Pennsylvania celebrates her Nobel Prize — School that once demoted Katalin Karikó and cut her pay has made millions of dollars from patenting her work::School that once demoted Katalin Karikó and cut her pay has made millions of dollars from patenting her work

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fun, fair world of academia.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Where both students and teachers are somehow exploited by business majors.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Business majors are ruining the world one quarter at a time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

They'll poison you over pennies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

But profits are up 5%!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

This hits hard even as an engineer working in product development.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Non pay walled version: https://archive.ph/hWXMz

They both saved all of our asses. And our families' asses. We owe the two scientists a great deal.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Good that she had the determination to continue. The great thing is that she was vindicated because it turned out she was right. In science being right is what ultimately matters.

I'm guessing she will never have similar problems in the future.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The thing is she randomly got lucky and proven right due to a pandemic that no-one expected. There are a huge number of other scientists out there who were also right but never had that luck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Randomly got lucky? What lol. Other scientists not being noticed doesn't in any way invalidate her. How absurd

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

I think they’re just trying to say, even if you’re right, you can still get screwed over. She just happened to get lucky in having a solid real world situation to help vindicate her.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

The problem is, and this happens a lot in science, often it takes so long for scientists to be vindicated they die poor and in disrepute. If the pandemic had never happened she may have gone the same way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Being wrong is just as important in science, imo

Right or wrong, it's all data

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

#NormalizePublishingNegativeResults

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

She may not, but i wonder how many other incredible technologies are being held back for effectively political reasons.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Let's not forget the medical world ignored and sidelined her research for years until suddenly it became necessary. If it weren't for COVID they'd still be pretending this technology doesn't exist. I bet they still don't even want it (case in point: it was developed with the intent of treating HIV and there's still no HIV treatment in sight) but the CEOs and shit have had to accept it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IANAL, but seems like this lady should sue them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If she did the work there they likely own it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

she left after they gave her an ultimatum of having to take a pay cut if she wanted to continue. i am not sure if she is a founder but she worked at BioNTech , so it's not owned by the university. I don't think it's illegal but this is the time she should be publicizing the story to shame them and divert talent to competing universities.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Don't get me wrong U of P is a good school but it is also where trump got his "degree" which I am sure he did 100% of the work to obtain it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

mRNA vaccines are an interesting technology. I consider them to be nanotechnology.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It’s all just physics