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The Japanese have this term "intoku (陰徳)" which roughly translates to good deeds done in secret. What are some examples of intoku in your own life? Doesn't matter even if it's something minor like picking up trash.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I pick up dog poop left by dogs other than mine. And I do it in the name of comnunism and the end of monarchy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

On hiking trails, I move rocks and branches, and fix drainage at water bars. Tiny improvements which make the trail easier for all who follow.

In my neighborhood, I pick up trash. Usually I go until I have filled a grocery bag, about 30 minutes. Though people do notice it so it’s only partly secret/anonymous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Pick mah nose.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

There's an outdoor cabinet in my neighborhood that is used as a food bank. I fill it to the brim weekly with shelf-stable food. I was formerly homeless and know what it's like to go hungry, and I work hard to ensure that no one in my neighborhood has to go to bed hungry.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

one time years ago i paid for the guy behind me at McDonald's. he then proceeded to follow me all the way home to thank me. i haven't done it again. lpt: if someone does that for you, just fuckin pay it forward so you don't scare the crap out of a 21 year old.

now I'm a school custodian and i go out of my way in little ways, like watering/turning plants in the classrooms, etc. I'm not sure if they notice but it makes me feel good ☺️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

I don't murder all the time when no one's around to notice. You're welcome to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

I donate to charities, mostly ones that pertain to researching serious medical conditions that currently do not have a cure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Maybe doesn't count for this thread, but I love donating supplies to local school rooms, because I sometimes get hand-drawn thank-you cards.

I've put those hand-drawn thank-yous in a drawer to be specially part of my kid's inheritance - as a reminder for them of what really matters in life.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If someone's card declines I act like absolutely nothing happened and let them have their purchase for free. (Inflight drinks and snacks)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

This is beautiful. I always bring candy for flight staff when I'm on a plane. Not an unseen kindness, but it makes everyone happier.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I preload one or two gumball machines with quarters at the laundromat for nosy bored kids stuck there with their parent. I was that bored kid once, and now I'm at a place where I can give back a bit... I'll also try to win toys at the claw machine and leave them in the bottom, but the success rate is bad.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Fyi the claw machine is literally a scam. The owner gets to set how often it will give a prize. Skill is essentially not involved at all. You'd do much much better buying a toy at a dollar store and just putting it into the win chute

https://www.vox.com/2015/4/3/8339999/claw-machines-rigged

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Epic! That's so cool

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Contributing to open street map. I have mapped over 400 benches that I won't sit on.

I just like an idea that someday someone will ask a map "where is a closest bench?" And it will just show it.

Most things I don't help in secret tho.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I know a few trails that I'd like to add to Open Street Maps because they're not included but I don't know how to do it. Can anyone do it or do I need to be verified in some way first?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

I have mapped over 400 benches that I won't sit on.

Thank you for your service!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

that I won't sit on

Because they're dirty or something?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I need this but for bathrooms, along with a quality ranking

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • If I see a freezer / fridge door open in a supermarket, I close it. Not for the supermarket, but for the planet

  • as someone who stacked shelves as a teen, if I take an item and it leaves a gap, I pull the next one forward so the employee doesn't have to keep fussing over the manager's demand for it to be lined up

  • my dad lives in a bungalow, on a small cul de sac of other bungalows. Sheltered housing for old folks. Litter often gets blown in and collects, I'll pick it up every couple of weeks. Also cleared their paths / sprinkled salt when It snowed

  • when old people are in the way, I don't crowd up behind them. I'll take a few steps back and wait so they don't feel pressured

  • if there's an item in the road that could damage someone's car, I'll wait until it's safe then remove the item

  • if I see someone was down voted just for sharing their opinion (assumedly because the down voter is too childish to withstand an opposing opinion), I make sure to up vote it in an attempt to restore balance. Even if I don't agree with said opinion (obviously this doesn't apply to hateful rhetoric etc)

Prob a ton of other little things I can't remember. Thanks for making this post!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

I'm so glad I'm not the only one that upvotes people being down voted for their opinion - provided it isn't hurtful to others. I don't want to find myself in an echo chamber, so I feel it's important for other opinions to be thrown into the ring.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

which roughly translates to good deeds done in secret.

It seems like posting what I do would violate the intent of "intoku" and it would thereby no longer be a "when nobody is watching".

I'm won't disclose what I do. However, I'll say that by not taking credit for any of my positive actions, it lets society take credit for the actions. It means someone doesn't have to have me or someone like me in their lives, but rather all of us will help you. The person that did the small thing or the hero that saved you from ruin could be right next to you in line at the grocery store. I want everyone to have that feeling that some rando will have your back when you need it in some minor or major way.

The only way that happens is if I never talk about what I do to help. Thats a very small price to pay if it means someone else gets to feel the comfort of knowing others care about them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I'd say that confessing a good deed anonymously online barely violates the intent of intoku. You don't really get any credit for it because nobody will remember.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

I pick up trash on the trails, creeks and rivers. All my outdoor bags are pre-loaded with rolled up grocery bags. I'm almost always alone, but the lengths I'll go to to snatch a beer can drives my wife and kids a little nuts.

One time we stopped the canoe under a railroad trestle and the kids saw all the garbage.

"Daddy! Don't go get all that!" LOL, like it would have fit onboard.

My wife seems to have had a change of heart. Last time we were on the creek she kept pointing out possible litter.

"What is this? Go there." (Her English is a little strange.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

I take a loose cart from the lot if one is nearby as I go into the store. I used to have a dog that was pretty good off leash and would have the claw poop grabber and a bucket and would grab any other discarded things as I walked around a park. I was actually a bit conflicted as I could not seperate recyclables and it would all go in the trash but still felt that was better than strewn around the park. Unfortunately my current dog is not that well behaved (and sometimes I had to stop when someone complained about my off leash dog as then I did not have two hands free to casually work the claw and bucket and would instead have to combine them in one hand). I live in a condo complex and my neighbors and I get each others mail. I am always really on the lookout for things I can do that are really convenient that help or improve a place. I hate facebook but get on it to tell folks its slippery on the sidewalks or whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

donations to trevor project

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In my case, a lot of it comes from my mountain biking hobby. I like doing unauthorized trail maintenance - sawing fallen trees off the path, laying logs over streams and mud pits so I (and others) can cross with dry feet. In winter, I sometimes ride the same trail back and forth multiple times so my fatbike tires can flatten the snow, which then freezes overnight into a perfect surface for dog walkers to walk on.

In my job, I occasionally spend my own time improving something beyond what the customer is paying me for.

At my gym, I always fill the water bucket in the sauna for the next person.

Once I also bought the supplies and fixed a hole in a fence that's meant to keep moose and deer from walking onto the highway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Does donating blood count?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Only if you don't then post about it on social media

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I'd say yes, the nurses are not that impressed and the people who receive your blood will never know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm more curious about donating cum

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

TIL men can do that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Only if you do it anonymously at some kind of blood donor glory hole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't know that there are ways to donate blood nonymously

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reading through these, some seem self- serving in a way, although still good deeds.

I was going to say that I write a bunch of OSS, but that's mostly selfish since I use everything I write. It's the "scratching the itch." I will rarely write something that I have no intention of using myself. The most selfless aspect of this is that there are a few distributions that I also maintain the packages for - again, for stuff I write, and a couple of them are not distros I use. But when I introspect about this, am I doing it in the true spirit of intoku, or am I secretly hoping this will encourage others to use my software and thereby increase my mana? Is it ultimately self-serving?

I snow-plow the sidewalk in front of my house; the HOA requires it, so although I'd do it anyway, I get no karma. I also plow in front of my neighbor's house, so that he doesn't have to if he's not feeling it. I suppose that counts, although he knows who's going it. OTOH, I used to do the neighbor's sidewalk on the other side, but after two years and not a single recognition or "thanks," I stopped. So I guess it's not true intoku after all.

I pick up trash and bin it when walking through the city if it's convenient - even that's because it makes my experience nicer. Plus, there's the tiny dopamine reward of doing the right thing that can't be discounted.

Nope. I can't think of a single, truly selfless thing I do that isn't in some way self-serving.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I doubt that a truly selfless act of charity exists. Even if you're just giving money away anonymously you're still probably feeling good about it and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's not really what my question was about.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Agreed.
Feeling good about oneself shouldn't be guilted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Oh, ok. I've been binging The Good Place, which is making me think about these things.

I do wonder what connotations intoku has for the Japanese. There must be boundaries, where some things qualify and some things don't. I get a tax break for charitable giving; it's still a net loss, b/c the tax break doesn't recover very much of the donation, but... is that intoku? Does the fact that my neighbor sometimes snowblows my sidewalk if he gets to it first make it transactional - is it still intoku? And the very definition you quoted: "when no-one is watching" - does the fact that I know that he knows it's me doing it make it not intoku?

I'm really curious about the word and what boundaries the Japanese would put around is/not intoku. Or is it like trying to define "art" - it's impossible, really.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Epicurus has entered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I put the toilet seat and lid down.
I park as far away as possible from the store (always to find someone parked right beside me upon return), and will grab a stray shopping cart if there's one.
I live at a beach. I walk it at first light and p/u trash.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder if in a parking lot some people like to park next to an already parked car because it helps them get in between the lines on the first try. So you might be helping someone even though you didn't know it!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I'll look at it that way from hereon in....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

But I would personally at least put a car's gap away to eliminate the possibility of damage from door-opening...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

But that defeats the purpose of using a neighboring car to help you get between the lines on the first try. It's a selfish move, but that's my guess why they do it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why they'd have to be adjacent; it's not like we suddenly go blind just because there's 1 car's distance between us and our target, haha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Because you can't see through the car door to see where the lines are on the ground

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