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[–] [email protected] 125 points 6 days ago (4 children)

You've heard about a Boeing suicide, no we have new age OpenAI suicide.

People love mocking Russians when their "leaders" fall out of windows, but where are these people when corpos kill plebs within US?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

As someone living in Russia, we don't do this window joke. We joke about sugar in Ryazan (aka Putin blows up houses), we joke about 146%, we joke about poisoned tea.

There's also been a story of a group of anarchists trying to build some kind of an organization and reproducing "Lord of the Flies" in process, resulting in murders of two of them and the rest trying to cover it up, it's still not certain that the one who came clear is in fact the murderer ; interesting that those murders were the only thing to interest law enforcement until a few years later, when the group as a whole formally not breaking any laws stopped being a hindrance. Point being - there are sometimes suspicions that groups like this are often intentionally created by FSB agents or whatever, to attract people likely to feel this way.

And when I was reading about where the window joke comes from, it's about a couple of scientists falling out of windows about the same time. I suppose with the defense-related (and in general strategic projects) corruption there could be some principled positions leading to murders covered up as suicides.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Weren't there two boing suicides? Or the second one was something more creative, I think.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Second one had enough plausible deniability to permit neo lib regime whores to label it as a "conspiracy theory"

They will pretend that the first one did not happen or that it was a fluke in the system of "democracy"

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 6 days ago (1 children)

America's version of fell out the window

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sir, this is a "Democracy"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Democracy©®™

*Not available in all areas, rates subject to change, data and messaging fees may apply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is Democracy Manifest.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can someone fill me in on the missing info here…

How is it that Zuck has been busted (basically) for training his ai on 80TB of pirated materials via torrents and it seems to be getting swept under the rug, yet this poor guy points out Sam Altman doing the same and he’s suicided?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, everyone knows that people who have the courage to blow the whistle when they see awful shit, are likely to kill themselves before they can share that information with anyone... Makes complete sense.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 days ago (3 children)

if you plan to whistleblow something, always plan it thoroughly so you cant be silenced by being murdered.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

And make it abundantly clear to everyone that you're not suicidal. Record videos with date stamps. Send date stamped letters by mail to friends, with instructions to retain the letters indefinitely, and perhaps which are clearly marked "to be opened in the event of my death". The letters should say something along the lines of "I am not suicidal. I do not want to die. I am not going to kill myself under any circumstances. If I die, it was not by suicide. I want to live. I have ABC reasons to live. I have XYZ plans for the future." Etc.

Keep multiple copies of the information in multiple locations, and make sure multiple people know where a copy is. Ideally, have a dead-man's switch set up, or someone you trust to do it, to automatically send all the information to all the major news outlets if you do turn up dead, along with a statement akin to the letter outlined above to make it clear you were murdered.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it's in those exact terms, but I think there were a few cases with high levels of preparation. Ended up being ruled as suicides anyway by the courts and the media. Not saying they'll always win, though. But their idealogical power is not to underestimate.

A minister in my country was deemed to have committed suicide by drowning in a 50cm body of water. Strangely enough, all witnesses have committed suicide too just before being heard by the courts.

And it worked. Everybody know it wasn't a suicide, but it changes nothing for those responsible of the murder.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Didn't the boeing guy pretty explicitly state that he was not suicidal to family and friends right before he died?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They think we are so fucking stupid, don't they?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They don't care. If there is no immediate and severe punishment for it then it doesn't matter if we 'know.' In 10 years the only line will be the official one and we'll just look like conspiracy theorists with half remembered facts. They dont think you're stupid, they know they'll get aways with it and they don't think about you at all.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It's a great idea, though in practice I fear you'd seem like Snowden and everyone would eventually coalesce around the idea that you're a traitor because you didn't get assassinated or put into a dark hole to be forgotten.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The point is like Russian point. It isn't just to silence you so trouble goes away that the whistle-blower was involved with. It's to silence other potential whistle-blowers. It's too send a message.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Yeah I read somewhere that, in Russian culture, the more absurd the cover up story the more insulting it is meant to be for the victim.

Like if someone "shot themselves 3 times in the back of the head then fell out of a window". Maybe Epstein fits into that too

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Why does the news increasingly sound like the lore of Cyberpunk 2077?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

...but without the fucking cool stuff.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Give it 52 years and we'll have more cool stuff, plus 300% more ads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

We got some of it, its just that killer drones and SI aren't as cool on this side of the screen, and the cyberware is only for rich people (though there is a growing 3D printed movement for amputees) That said with some craft skills we can at least make the cool punk armor and kneepads and have it be reasonably functional, even deploy a blade if you're ambitious, though more predator than mantis in that regard.

Be the change you want to see.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How many times did he shoot himself?

I mean there is a pattern to these things.
If Putin doesn't like you, you shoot yourself and then jump out of a building.
If the Clintons don't like you, you shoot yourself twice in the back of the head before driving your car off a cliff.
If you have dirt on powerful people, you hang yourself in prison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

According to the police records, the man committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the back of his head.

edit: after reading your comment more carefully, you actually already mentioned that. oopsie.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Kinda like when all those whistle-blowers in Russia accidently fall out the window.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago

Suuuuure it was.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Devs was a fun show.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Wow that must be pretty crazy to do this to yourself

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Did he fall out a window?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

OpenAI is a slimy company with slimy leadership that hoovers up people's work without permission and without punlishment, and turns scientific discoveries into a walled garden of overhyped spam generators.

Do they really need a whistleblower to tell us this?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago
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