Man, everyone bitching about Bluesky but very few cheering the long overdue departure from twitter.
Anywhere is better than twitter.
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Ah yes anywhere is better than twitter let me go switch to threads.
Jumping from one central controlled platform to another changes absolutely nothing. People switching to Blue sky instead of the fediverse are braindead
Any changes away from Twitter is a net positive. I don't care where, as long as its not there.
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Threads and twitter are both worse than bsky. I like Mastodon even more but bsky is at least a departure from open right extremist rhetorics.
I could debate the braindead assertion, but I don't feel like it, and in any case a braindead not-Nazi is a net improvement over a Nazi (which are braindead anyway) or a Neo-Nazi (who do a damn good job at imitating that).
I wouldn't mind if they did switch to threads. It would still be a chink in the stranglehold that Twitter has.
Not letting perfect being the enemy of good and all that...
This. Eventually, some billionaire will buy up BlueSky and make it shitty. It's much harder for one person to take over a defederated platform, spread out over hundreds of instances in several countries.
Eventually Earth will be consumed by the sun.
All movement away from Twitter is a positive. Fuck fElon and fuck him right now.
Even if that happens, having switched once, makes sit easier for further switches as needed.
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That's people for you. Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag!
For the love of god wake up people, do you know what little percent of people know about fedi? Services like these jump to where the public is, not drags public behind it. Bluesky made huge jump publicity wise, and that's when it was already more widely known than fedi. Moaning about it doesn't help.
In perfect world, we'd have country-specific instances with all national news and announcments centralised in there, to which people could easily subscribe to. But that even sounds complex to average person, compared to "Hey, Bluesky? Yeah twitter but better".
I know the BBC has made a Mastodon instance as a test some time ago. If only other broadcasters did something like that.
End user doesn't really need to know how it works. We talk about it more because most people here are tech nerds
End users didn't know how email or the world wide web worked once upon a time. There's that clip of Katie Couric asking her producer "Can you explain what internet is?"
In the years since, they figured it out.
And as I pointed out recently, people figured out how to play WoW even if you have to pick a server before you can start playing. My understanding is different servers have different modes, like there might be one where PvP is enabled, etc. so there's a clear reason expressed why you might pick one over the other. I've noticed Fediverse instances are really shit at that.
I signed up for Pixelfed recently, and the Join Pixelfed website's page where you pick an instance had a bunch of tiles that read something like this:
| Pixelfed.de
|
| Pixelfed is an image sha...
Fist of all the description for the instance started out trying to explain what Pixelfed as a whole was, and then it was truncated to about a quarter of a tweet with no way to expand it right there.
I'll take this opportunity to bang on once again about everyone wanting to make general purpose instances with no attempt at finding a niche. I've been saying this since joining; every instance decides it needs a c/funny or a c/linux or a c/cats or a c/games and so then there ends up being 40 of each and the one on .world or .ml ends up being the de facto one everyone uses. Then you get a page where you have to pick from lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, lemmy.ca each one giving the first fifty characters of the definition of Lemmy as their description, yeah no one's going to open another browser tab and end up doing something else when confronted with that, huh?
I doubt most people know what the difference with pop and imap is though. Generally they don't need to know this sort of stuff.
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Disappointing.
They could have followed the EC’s example https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/about
You could send a question to them to ask why: https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/about-us/contacts-european-medicines-agency/send-question-european-medicines-agency
Yes...most of these news recently is then followed up by:we are on bluesky now... Well it's fair enough but they should at least also join mastodon .. I don't know. It's frustrating.
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Lmao they went to Bluesky, a centralized (don’t get pedantic with me) social media platform controlled by Americans. Genius
Wikipedia says "direct messages are offered though a central service". If that's was/still is correct then you're correct, it's centralized.
Nuance is the friend of truth - pedantic.
The whole algorithm (AppView) is centralised. While it's technically possible to host with enough capital, a second AppView server would also double bandwidth required for every message sent on the network. This gets worse the more AppView instances you add, as every message has to be sent to every AppView server (exponential growth)
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People go to the platform that's easy, attractive and works, instead of the very beautiful, finely crafted, exquisite solution that requires days of reading followed by fiddling every other day to barely get the same immediate result, assorted with hidden surprises like hidden moderation and silent failure situation that leads to fragmentation of the whole network. What a surprise.
Also, "don't get pedantic with me" does not sit well with the current goals of bluesky. Sure, right now, they focused on making something that works and is usable by everyone. Whoop fucking doo, that's exactly what mastodon/lemmy/most activitypub services skipped. And that's why the general public look at them with contempt. I can't see the future (maybe you can, lucky you), but for now, bluesky works, and the plan they're still following up to now is aimed toward a decentralized solution.
If I had a company with public presence, I would too. Companies and organization's go to the people are.
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not enough, we need businesses and other government organisatiins ditching X fast
Use mastodon
Why have they jumped to another billionare run site instead of spinning up a mastodon instance?
FYI, Jay Graber is not a biliionaire.
Until they can sell blue sky to VC that is.
Because there hasn't been much billionaire behind bluesky for a long time now, and "spinning up a mastodon instance" is the exact reason the general people are avoiding mastodon in the first place.
The goal is to reach people, not to promote a pure solution that's repulsive to the masses.
It's easier
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It's not X, it's Truth Social 2.0.
Out of the frying pan, into ~~the fire.~~ yet another frying pan.
Are you implying Bluesky is worse? Because that's what that idiom means.
Well... Bluesky was founded by the same sort of techbro culture that spawned Xitter, but hit hasn't gone full incel fash fanboy like Xitter. So maybe it's more "Out of the fire, into the frying pan, then back into the fire" because I'm pretty sure Bluesky will follow Twitters trajectory.
But hasn't yet and that's good enough for me right now. I'm not interested in letting perfect be the enemy of good.
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No, not worse. It's just not decentralized in a meaningful sense, so it suffers from the same enshittification problems that have killed Twitter, Reddit, BoingBoing, Digg, Slashdot...
Fundamentally, it's not any worse, but it's not any better either.
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When it comes to the average person it's more important to be willing to jump to another platform if an alternative comes up than waiting for a perfect one that will likely never appear. Repeating the cycle of joining and leaving I think is better than just staying when it comes to the average person and mainstream platforms.
In what way?
https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
https://torment-nexus.mathewingram.com/is-bluesky-decentralized-its-complicated/
Basically, Bluesky is not functionally decentralized, so it's just another platform destined for either failure or enshittification.
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