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The crypto-communism problem.

Original comic: https://xkcd.com/610/

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sadly election results prove every few years, that you are the only one seeking radical change.

~30-50% want extreme conservativism/capitalism. ~20-40% want everything as-is.
~30% want mild improvements like a really low UBI.
<5% want to get rid of oligarchs.
<.1% want to eliminate suffering.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This would be of the voting populace. Which is 2/3rd.... NM I don't have the energy to explain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Those that do not vote don't seem to vote meaningfully different from voters.

This is to be expected, as non-voters either don't care to vote as they have their own problems, or have a general mistrust of the voting system. These traits are not specific to progressives or conservatives, so they don't skew the outcome meaningfully.

As much as i would like it, there is no 1/3 of the population that is made from antinatalist communists just waiting for the signal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

America is doing something wrong to have so many fail to vote

Australia has 90 to 95% voter turnout

We hold elections on weekends

We use a single transferable vote, so you can safely vote for who you actually support

We have a rule that you must vote, enforced by a tiny fine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

The ones who vote are the only ones who matter unless we unite to change things by other means.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you talked to people? They’re pretty insufferable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Everyone is tired and on edge so we fight each other as it was planned.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have talked to people. That's how I've found fellow socialists at work, alongside some others who are increasingly (and surprisingly) critical of capitalism and systematic issues affecting them.

Obviously culture changes from place to place, I don't know your circumstances, but I expected my workplace to be especially conservative.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was surprised how few people I work with are Republicans. Yeah it's a union shop but it's still hard to find in manufacturing. It may just be that they keep their mouths shut to avoid being outed, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe. It could also be just a general aversion of politics in the workplace, it's usually not a good place to start (non-work related) political fights.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Actually politics are pretty well discussed here, especially because of our current situation in the economy, plus talks of moving to Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, most people I’ve met are like that.

It’s everything else I ca t stand.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok next try to find a common ground on how to actually fight for a better world

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Others have done that, we should analyze how they managed to do it and what we can learn from them that applies to our conditions and what does not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You'll need a place for the dialogue. Do you know anywhere that would work? I don't know how we can organize at that level, but I'm willing to learn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

There are probably worker organizations and parties around you at the local level you can join. Otherwise, reading theory and studying history of worker movements helps a lot.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone in that thread you linked to posted this short video, I think it's worth a watch: There are more communists than you think!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in turkey there are 400 thousand communists that always vote for minority parties and a fuck load more that vote for other parties because minority parties have no chance

This is in an extremely conservative country and you might see through that USA, Germany, Britain and alike have a higher percentage of such population

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Sorry, 1 million, bad math, in the 2023 elections the TİP (Turkish Workers Party) achieved 1.84% of the vote.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

FUCK it's too real

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Alles was fehlt damit die Revolution in Gang kommt, ist, dass jemand den ersten Schritt tut

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Luigi sagt nein.

Braucht wahrscheinlich eher sowas wie ne netflix serie oder ein tiktok Video.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Ja dann mach ma'

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-communism

Crypto-communism is a secret support for, or admiration of, communism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As in communists who hide their ideology

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Everyone who wants to fly to America has to. Am curious what would happen if I ticked Yes next to "have you ever associated with communists". Do they just kick you out or is there a lengthy interrogation process first?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

It is kind of a hopeful message isn't it?