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I have a close friend that I've known 20 years who became obsessed with right-wing politics. even though I'm liberal, I don't make it my entire personality and life. But anyway... I was talking to him this morning casually like friends do.

Me: "Hey man. Do you have off today for MLK day?" Friend: "No, I have to work today." Me: "Damn, sorry to hear. I have off today since it's a company holiday." Friend: "Yeah, I work for a living. Guess that's the difference me and people who live in an ivory tower." Me: "Uhh I work for a living too. Idk why you're acting like I don't?" Friend: "I didn't mean you specifically. But you’re off and I’m not so it shows that you get to relax at least. You should be able to handle the truth lol. There's no shame in admitting that I'm a harder worker than everyone else. you shouldn't be so sensitive"

Honestly, he's not unique, either. I've met so many people who are conservative, obsessed with right-wing stuff, and they're all like this. They act like they're special and the whole world is lazy, "no one wants to work anymore" attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Goodbye "friend"

[–] [email protected] 179 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you’ve known him for 20 years he should respect you enough that you can tell him he’s being a cunt. Coming from you it should mean something, and maybe he’ll take a look at himself. I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people but folks like that need to be called out.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago (55 children)

I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people.

?

"right wingers" or "decent people"

Choose one, because they are mutually exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can still be charismatic, a good neighbor, someone who stands up for friends when things start getting rough, a caring person that worries about those around them, and still hold the most batshit insane political ideas. I happen to know multiple people like this.

People are complex, and plenty are good people who have been led to believe the most outlandish shit. They are gullible and don't put enough thought into what they accept as truth. It is just as attractive to people on our side of the fence to paint everyone else with broad assumptions. It is the nature of Evil, because evil is ultimately a boring thing that we all do every day without thinking about it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the difference is between our definitions of "decent people", because I don't think a person gets to be called "decent" simply because they can be nice, pleasant, thoughtful, or helpful to only the people who abide by their personal world views while actively trying to make life worse for people who don't meet their bigoted qualifications.

Yeah, they can sure seem like "decent people" if you're not on the receiving end of their bigoted ire.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Disown them immediately.

I am serious.

Nothing good will come of this. He us announcing his resentment of you and it WILL get worse.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hate, insecurity, intolerance, and ignorance are the foundation of their ideology. I'm not proud of myself at all for this, but I got sucked into the pipeline when I was a young teen. However I am proud to say that I did fortunately manage to pull myself out of it and I'm now a socialist.

While I hate that I got sucked in, it does give me a lot of insight into why they are the way they are. They start by targeting common insecurities which they use to lure people in, and then they feed them lies while appealing to those insecurities. For example, I remember being a lonely teen and watching mgtow 🤮 videos and the gist of the videos was that if you joined their "movement" that you would get laid all the time, and of course that video was ridden with a shitload of misogyny and lies. Then from there it snowballs into more and more hatred and lies.

Conservatives are just sad, narcissistic losers who are incapable of understanding that people need to lift each other up rather than putting each other down. That's why conservatives like to brag, because they think putting others down is how they get lifted up.

Being knowledgeable is a good defence against their tactics since their lies become obvious and it quickly becomes evident that they are fools.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The secret sauce at fox news is flattering dumb people, telling them they are smart. Smarter than those woke professors, doctors, scientists. "Youre a free thinker, you see right through the deep state lies, you know the real deal and dont fall for their propaganda........etc." If you can flatter a moron into thinking they are smart, you can literally program them like a manchurian candidate or robot.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of this dipshit I saw in a Starbucks once wearing one of those anti-welfare t shirts. He spent a good 20 minutes bragging to this poor young woman working the counter about how hard of a worker he is and that people on welfare are parasites.

When she asked him what he did, he sheepishly responded that he did a few hours a week of per diem work at UPS. She just rolled her eyes and asked him if he needed anything in that "buy something or get fuck out" tone.

After he left, she started talking to another employee about how much of a tool he was. The other coworker responded that he pulls this goofy anti-welfare ranting shit to try and impress new girls and that he actually lives with his parents and collects state aid himself.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 days ago (2 children)

its the propaganda they ingest. they are constantly told that everyone brown or poor does nothing but live off the government teat. constantly . despite this being demonstrably not true.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 days ago

you shouldn’t be so sensitive

Imagine being so sensitive that someone else having a day off sends you into a insecure tirade about how hard you work. Ditch that loser. Life is too short.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago

Typical conservative reply: it’s your fault you’re offended that I was an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I dont think it is specific to conservatives. People who define their identity through their political views tend to be like this, regardless of their political views.

I have experienced similiar behaviour with people who identified as leftists, anarchists, feminists as much as with people who identify as conservatives, liberals...

The annoying thing is, that you cannot respectfully disagree with them on anything anymore, because they perceive it as an attack on themselves directly.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The conservative people that run my job think they're funny or something. We get a the standard holidays off but if the 4th of July or whatever falls near a weekend they'll swap another holiday to make it a 4 day weekend.

The only holidays they "trade away" are MLK day and Juneteenth... Funny that.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago

Company holidays mean you're lazy? Bro needs to get a grip.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Can't relate. As someone with many right wing friends, this isn't a trend among them

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like he's jealous that you are getting a day off and is trying to spin it as you being lazy

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What a loser. I hate people like this. We are all working hard you fucking dunce. Get your head out of your ass.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I don't want to work lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Correct

It's a shame because if Conservatives would just look at who they're supporting for five seconds, instead of going "He's not a filthy librul." they'd realize they stole the Ivory Tower from themselves.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (6 children)

My brother, a right winger, brought his kids up to visit me last summer.

It was at the end of the week that he told me that I hardly work at all. I'm like: Yeah, I have fucking guests in my house. I was still at my desk when I wasn't trying to keep 2 teenaged girls entertained.

He moved his family 1000 miles away and 20 years later is lamenting that they have no relationship with the people he moved away from. (I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this lines up with the rise of "Family" talk from right wingers.) This same guy calls other people "Sheeple".

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago

Sounds like him living 1,000 miles away is a good outcome.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

"I'd like to have time to start/spend with my family" -thats all you have to say. Too much work time collapses society.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no better measure of your worth to a conservative than how many hours you are willing to work in support of the 1% becoming even richer.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago

This entire thread is bubble people threatened by peeking outside their bubble.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Religious conservatives are trained from childhood to unwaveringly believe things that can't be proven, and teaches that malice is the only acceptable way to get dopamine.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

moist toxic

God damn slightly damp conservatives.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago

Yeah, conservatives like to randomly plug phrases of propaganda like unfunny inside jokes. Depending on my relationship with them I do one of the following.

  1. Ignore if I'm not that close. Maybe roll my eyes a bit.
  2. Push back on it if we're in the context of world events/news/politics.
  3. If we're close enough, re-direct the culture war bullshit interjections with interjections of class war. If your friend sees it fit to just randomly call society lazy, you can also randomly call the upper capitalist class lazy government-teat sucking hoarders.
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