libreoffice, however, will continue to support windows 10
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Me, still using a site licensed copy of Office 2007 from a job I had over a decade ago.
I'm still using office 2003
i miss 3.x
So, an abundance of software companies come and go while they stand tallest for decades. Then, now, at this moment just when shit is going down, they decide to try the business model all other failing companies used. God it must be such a different world for these decision makers that can't see how actual people think and act. It's a baffling phenomenon to me.
LibreOffice and OnlyOffice are decent replacements. I haven't paid for Microsoft Office in decades.
Lots of people using libre office.
Where my open offices boys at!
It's time to use LibreOffice & OnlyOffice
Long since been.
I'll use Windows 10 and pay for the updates for years while using old versions of office. Fuck Windows 11.
Are you sure about that?
While businesses will be charged $61 for a single year of ESU, they also have the option to pay $122 for a second year and then $244 for a third year of updates. Microsoft will only offer consumers a single year if they’re willing to pay the $30 fee.
I am so glad that LibreOffice products satisfy my needs, can't even imagine having to upgrade just to use the Office suite! That sounds insane but thankfully LibreOffice, again, is solid but I get if Microsoft Office is better in a professional setting.
That’s funny because I bet Firefox will keep running my MS applications just like it does now. That’s what I do on Linux anyway.
But if I’m not forced to use those tools, Libre Office it is!
See, there is absolutely no reason for this. It's simply out of spite for their users.
No, it isn't. They don't disable Office on Windows 10 on that date.
They just don't take Windows 10 into account anymore in developing updates to the office apps.
Which means those apps might stop working at some point if an update to them happens to break Windows 10 compatibility.
Sorry, nuance is not allowed on Lemmy.
Discontinuing Windows 10 when Windows 11 is such a terrible OS is the real issue, continuing to support EOL Windows version in their Office suite would simply make no sense.
Nuance isn't allowed on the internet. Not just lemmy. Reddit was the same. Forums are the same. Hell if there was a forum dedicated to nuance, it wouldn't allow nuance. Just pretend everyone is highly autistic and you will land more often than not.
When Win 11 is such a hostile experience for privacy, yeah it still is out of spite, just for different reasons. I'm so glad to be rid of Windows in my home.
The harder MS tries to force Win11 on me the clearer it becomes how bad it is.
I will move to another office suit,install, and learn a completely new OS like Linux after 40 years of Windows before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner.
Win10 was bad but most of it could be removed/worked around. This time it's clearly war against typical users so F it I'm out.
It's not difficult to block the mining and telemetry. Pihole, a few registry tweaks, a few scheduled tasks disabled and life goes on.
Folk see nothing wrong with spending hours tuning a Linux distro, but they object to doing the same with Windows?
FWIW I use vanilla Debian for everything other than what I'm required to use Windows for.
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For those about to switch, welcome to Linux! If you have AMD hardware give Linux Mint a shot. If you have NVIDIA, Pop!_OS is worth your first install.
Pop!_OS is worth your first install.
Debian 12 is also hat in the ring worthy, nv support is fine.
Mint is better with AMD? Good to know. I was already planning to try Mint first because I heard it was easier on cavemen like me that don't speak no computer.
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Switch to Linux Mint and Libreoffice. You will thank me later!
Former burned out core LM developer here, the grass is not always greener (but maybe is if you don't know how the sausage is cooked).
I, in fact, do not know how the sausage is cooked. It's great!
Well, thank GNOME for it being somewhat usable, but I have higher standards.
LM is pretty green
It’s always better when you don’t know how the sausage is made.
Manjaro and SoftMaker Office works just as well
And then, you need a SW only available via AUR on arch based distro, see the toggle to enable AUR, do it, successfully install the app, make manjaro sw update and welcome in dependency hell ❤️
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That's when Windows 10 stops getting security updates. Expect most software vendors to drop support for Windows 10 this year if they haven't already. That doesn't necessarily mean things will stop working, but it will not be tested and they won't spend time fixing Win10-specific problems.
In enterprise, you can get an additional three years of "extended security updates". That's your grace period to get everyone in your org upgraded.
While I strongly relate to anyone who hates Windows 11, "continue using Windows 10 forever" was never a viable long-term strategy.
Windows 10 was released in 2015. Ten years of support for an OS is industry-leading, on par with Red Hat or Ubuntu's enterprise offerings and far ahead of any competing consumer OS. Apple generally only offers three years of security updates. Google provides 3-4 years of security updates. Debian gets 5 years.
There has never been a time in the history of personal computing when using an OS for over 10 years without a major upgrade was realistic. That would be like using Windows 3.1 after XP was released. Windows 10 is dead, and it's been a long time coming.
Now go download Fedora.
But not Professional? Just Enterprise?
Also this is very much not the same world as when XP came out, considering you can accidentally upgrade your os instead of having to watch your father angrily fail to install service pack 3 for four hours.
And why Fedora?
I think it's just for enterprise contracts, yeah.
Fedora seems like a good general-purpose pick to me, because it is modern, it has a large community, and it's easy enough to install and use. It has similar advantages as Ubuntu — that is, a large community and broad commercial third-party support — without the downsides of having a lot of outdated software and lacking support for new hardware. I think Fedora is less likely to have show-stopping limitations than a lot of other distros, even beginner-friendly ones like Mint.
But that's just one opinion. There's nothing wrong with Ubuntu or derivatives. I've heard good things about Pop_OS as well, though I've never tried it myself.
Mint has been on kernel 6.8 for months now, and that kernel version was first released less than a year ago. They made a change a little while back to be more up to date.
So it’s not bleeding edge, but it’s also not far behind now.
I'm expecting pretty decent software support for Windows 10 for another three years or so. Sure, there will be things here and there that won't work, but most things will continue to work and many people who are on Windows 10 can just keep on using it for the next few years should they chose to do that. That'll more or less match what happened with Windows 7, where it wasn't until 2023 that I started to see support start to massively drop off. With that said, if Microsoft actually breaks Office on Windows 10 that'll really change things.
Also, I'd offer up 2001-2014 as a period of time where it was entirely possible to stick with one OS (Windows XP) the entire time.
How are they going to drop updates for something they have to spend zero energy on to stay compatible? Windows 11 is a low effort UI re-hash with some minor kernel iterations. I love and miss the Linux desktop and want it to succeed, but it's clear there's a bias here meant to push a narrative.
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