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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/52315107

Hrant Dink prominent author was assassinated by a Turkish fascist back on January 14, 2007. Alin Ozinian, another Armenian reporter, wanted to mark the day by sharing his portrait on Instagram. The photo was removed citing "dangerous organisations and individuals" community standard.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

fact checking and censorship is bad except when we cave to authoritarian governments zuck really is just like elon

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Calling women property and transgender people mentally ill? We sleep

Post commemorating anti-genocide author who was assassinated thanks to the negligence of the country responsible for said genocide? Real shit

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I'd suggest posting this to any news community as it might not gain traction here in the technology community

Edit:
Looks like I was wrong so feel free to ignore this comment.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why not both? This deserves some attention.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

True and fair enough👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Good call, and glad this rose here

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Possible translation:

Instagram found Hrant Dink's photo dangerous and removed it. Let me write them an email saying 'they killed him in the middle of the street, rewarded his killers, don't be afraid of his dead body either.'

(machine translated)

Potential interpretation:

Instagram has removed Hrant Dink's photo, deeming it dangerous. Let me write them an email: 'They killed him in the middle of the street and rewarded his killers - at least don't be afraid of his dead body.'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm Turkish and I'm struggling to translate it myself what the fuck is he trying to say?????

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ah yes,

"Instagram removed Dink's image, so I sent them a mail: 'They killed him in middle of the street and afterwards awarded the murderers, so please don't be afraid (remove) the image (for it is journalism and not gore I assume)'"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

To play devils advocate here, a bad translation of the post might interpret the first half of the sentence as "they should keep murdering you" instead of "even if they keep murdering you". But it's Facebook, so they could also just be on the fascists' side.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago

No meta platform gets the benefit of the doubt from me anymore. Unless they can show it was a benign action, their history tells me they were probably being malicious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Facebook should not be making content moderation decisions based on machine translations. They should be paying actual humans who can both speak the language and understand the cultural context of the posts. Yes, that's going to cost them more. They shouldn't be allowed to operate if they don't do it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I hope to someday be cool enough to have my photo blocked from social media.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

These social media companies need to stop interfering in political discussions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I wonder if this was reported by someone or if it's another case of modding by AI? Not that it's excusable by any standard. Would be nice to know if the bias is human or machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

You can't "assassinate" a portrait.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And people got mad at meta moving to community notes instead of shadowy truth police.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You think the company doesn't have the ability to curate the notes allowed by the community or to farm their own? It's always possible for a site owner to shape the messages on the site, even if it comes to a point of direct database manipulation.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago

Well, obviously something more open is better, but progress is still progress.