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Leaked screenshot shows Amazon is now tracking individual employee office attendance records, reversing its anonymized data policy::Amazon is now sharing individual employee office attendance records in its latest move to force workers back to the office.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Red flag, working conditions must be bad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Always have been.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I mean they are notorious for having horrible working conditions even for developers lol

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The more people agree to work for and comply with evil corporations, the more the world will come to reflect their evil ideas.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I doubt the guy working as a slave in an Amazon warehouse has a gamut of options to choose from

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They actually have many options, no way Amazon is the only employer that would employ them, and they chose Amazon probably because it's actually the least evil of options or somewhat "better" in something. It doesn't have to be actually better in terms of work or pay etc. but perhaps how easy it was to commute (though I heard Amazon has plenty of work benefits actually)
Now other employers have to compete because they need an employee too. So they try to one up Amazon. If they get good enough Amazon will lose too many employees and have to one up the other employers. etc.

Ok but this clearly doesn't seem to work well, right? Wages stagnating and harsh work etc. This is probably related to many factors but I guess job security is a big one, people don't job hop as much and fear getting fired homeslessness etc. Another one is too many potential employees to choose for limited spots (with the increasing levels of automation in every kind of work), so much that employers can actually down on their work conditions and say "ok then, whoever can stand these conditions for this price can work here".

I'm not some economist or something but I believe UBI or some derivative of it at least would be the leverage for that. If someone who just got fired were to receive 1000$ per months on top of their current savings for 24 months, they won't be so much of a risk and won't be inclined to work in a 1200$ per month job either. We don't actually need this constant race of upping minimum wage and many other band aid regulations if that could be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The premise is the same, unfortunately. Desperate people do desperate things, but it reflects on the world around them.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m wondering if they get away with it despite the lack of stock movement. So much of staff compensation is tied to stock price. Staff previously got RSUs allocated and stayed because they went up in value every year but lately it’s been stagnant. People are less likely to put up with this bullshit if there is no big payout at the end.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What stock price are looking at? It's up 50% this year.

And before you quote that it's lower than its peak during COVID, so is the majority of not all big tech firms.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Isn't this illegal in Europe?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The new badge report for individual employees is a reversal from Amazon's previous policy of only tracking anonymized, aggregated office attendance data, which it said was shared with managers, primarily for safety and space planning purposes.

For example, at a recent internal townhall meeting, Amazon's SVP Peter DeSantis told his engineering team that office badging data is "informational" and only shared in "very aggregated ways," as Insider previously reported.

In an email to Insider, Amazon's spokesperson Rob Munoz said badge data does not account for reported paid-time off, personal time, or work from a non-corporate building.

The memo added badge data is not available to employees in Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Korea, or Taiwan.

"We're providing this data to help guide conversations as needed between employees and managers about coming into the office with their colleagues," said the memo, obtained by Insider.

Amazon's CEO Andy Jassy, meanwhile, told employees in an internal meeting last month that it's "past" the time to commit to the company's RTO policy, saying "it's probably not going to work out" for those refusing to comply.


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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Despising not surprising.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
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