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Note: Original report by Bloomberg, article by Reuters proxied by Neuters to bypass paywall.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

Google will bribe trump and this'll be undone immediately

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That would be the logical thing according to common sense and probably according to pichai a few weeks ago, but trump just nominated an anti big tech and musk friend to the FCC. musk is behind almost everybody in ai and autonomous cars so he'll definitely push to hamper all competitors.

Sure, we don't know how far would they go or how long will musk keep having white house influence and I personally think breaking up google is now off the table, but I don't think they will get off the hook too easily.

So surely a very big bribe.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Lit. It's a good ask although it's not clear what separation means here. Not going to hold my breath, the big corpos seem to usually win these kind of games.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Chrome is now owned by a separate conpany with the same major stock holders.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 18 hours ago

It's like they're a company pretending to be another company, disguised as another company. Tropic Thunder all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Chrome is now owned by a company, owned by a company, owned by another company, that is owned by Google.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

And even in the case where there is actual separation, and competition, it will only be temporary!

see history of telco consolidation after a monopoly breakup in 1984

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Why doesn’t this have sprint?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If this happens, I'd be interested in seeing how this effects ChromeOS. I don't use it but my mom does.

Also, if you're confused as to why ChromeOS would be effected, while it's based on Gentoo Linux, ChromeOS uses a modified version of Chrome as it's Desktop Environment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

Yes I would like to know what that means for ChromeOS and Chromebooks. If the new "Chrome" company got ChromeOS also that would be huge. But if that is not a requirement Google could just put another Chromium browser in ChromeOS. They could also continue to sell Chromebooks but based on a ChromiumOS fork.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Its based on debian now :(

Depending on what version

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

According to Wikipedia, it's still based on Gentoo, it just uses Debian for running Linux applications in Crostini.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

Oh go figure, my bad :P

[–] [email protected] 50 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you're talking about edge browser, edge is chrome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ew. So if someone likes their girlfriend to tie them up and edge them, that means they enjoy a breach of privacy, and getting google involved?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Google does like to watch.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

LoL they won't, even if they buy it for 1 trillion dollar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

They are going to ask a judge like they have no fucking balls.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

What's to stop them just making another browser?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What’s to stop them just making another browser?

Nothing. Chromium is open source. So they could just fork it and declare a new "official" google browser and it would be a lot like Chrome.

I'm not sure why the govt thinks forcing google to give up a particular fork/branch of an open source browser is all that meaningful. It might make more sense if Chrome was a closed source one of a kind browser.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve worked in the aftermath of DoJ agreements like this one. The DoJ is not stupid (or at least didn’t used to be) and will have stipulations about removing Google employees from governance/write permissions to the project, with follow up check-ins every few months to make sure any shenanigans aren’t occurring.

..none of that matters though now that the DoJ is going to be dissolved.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

That's exactly what I was thinking. It also makes Chrome essentially worthless to anyone except Google.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not needed. Internet Explorer existed for years after the 90s. It wasn't killed by the courts. It was killed by the fact that it's only function was to install a better browser on first boot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think you are severely underestimating how many people don’t even understand the difference between windows, explorer, a web browser and even the Internet itself during the 90’s well into the 2000’s even 2010’s.

That’s who kept IE alive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No offense but it was the US Government. Most of their websites were coded for it, and quite a few of them didn't work properly or reliably in other browsers as a result. This was true up until it was sunsetted and they were forced to update to Edge and some of the websites still haven't been properly moved over to Chromium. When the pandemic hit and the Armed Forces had to setup remote work for thousands of people Microsoft basically built them a fork of Teams. The US Government is kind of running hand in hand with Microsoft on a lot of stuff if you just hazard a cursory look.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

With blackjack and hookers?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

I'm 40% internet browser.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

They didn't make the first one! They got it from Apple, who themselves got it from KDE.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

What if Linux foundation buys Chrome?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

They already have Servo.

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