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The [Australian] government plans to ban under-16s from social media platforms. (www.abc.net.au)
submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The government is being pretty coy about the details, so most of the article is necessarily conjecture.

Selected excerpts from the article:

The definition of a social media service, as per the Online Safety Act

An electronic service that satisfies the following conditions:

  1. The sole or primary purpose of the service is to enable online social interaction between two or more end users;
  2. The service allows end users to link to, or interact with, some or all of the other end users;
  3. The service allows end users to post material on the service.

Under the proposed changes, it will be the responsibility of social media companies to take reasonable steps to block people under 16.

How will your age be verified?

The government's legislation won't specify the technical method for proving a person's age.

Several options are on the table, including providing ID and biometrics such as face scanning.

The government's currently running an age assurance trial to assess all the methods, and it's scheduled to continue into 2025.

Based on the results of that trial, eSafety commissioner Julie Inman Grant will make recommendations to platforms.

It's possible that Australians will be asked to provide their IDs or biometric data directly to social media companies in order to use their platforms, but that's not guaranteed.

Many of the big players, including Meta, have instead argued for the age verification onus to be placed on app stores, rather than individual platforms, as that would mean proving your age once — rather than every time you sign up to a platform.

It's also possible that a third-party company that specialises in ID verification will act as a go-between between users and social media platforms.

No matter which model is adopted, the prime minister has said privacy protections will be introduced to cover any data people end up providing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

After hearing about this proposal for three months now, I still believe it's fucked up, especially the fact they don't even know what method they'll use, whether it's digital IDs (which will take likely at least a decade to become mainstream), facial scanning (authoritarian as fuck), or some other shitty proposal.

There's also the fact as a child I wasn't able to go out very much, so social media was useful to me, especially to give me time with friends digitally, and as a time burner, which can be detrimental for a child in a similar place to have it all banned.

In all ways this happens, this will either be extremely authoritarian or would not be necessary as all people set their birth dates to their exact one every time without any variation, like magic, as if that shit would ever happen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

If they want to employ bank-style KYC, then no. >!Fediverse is better.!<

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aka another scheme to tie faces to anonymous identities.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

just like religion; you gotta indoctrinate them while they're young & impressionable so that they will more easily accept your biases as reality; otherwise they'll be corrupted by information from unapproved sources like tiktok

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well tiktok is one of the worse sources to obtain information from in my opinion because you pretty much guaranteed to only get information and opinions from people who align with your ideologies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The same goes for all general use social media platform and singling tiktok out on these grounds can only be intentional.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah your right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you gotta indoctrinate them while they're young & impressionable so that they will more easily accept your biases as reality;

Lol and social media companies are just such complete white knights too and would never engage in such tactics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They're no more nor less white knight than facebook; but facebook is on the approved list because it complied willingly where tiktok can't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The same way porn and alcohol is banned for those under 18? Mkay mate, I doubt anything will come out of this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I think there needs to be some legislation done in terms of limiting commercial social media platforms although I'm not sure how someone would go about this. Would they ban social media cites that take peoples data? maybe they should ban cites that display ads? What about making all social media cites to support an open protocol like activity pub or similar so your not locked into using there scummy closed source apps.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What will this mean for Lemmy instances? XMPP servers? Email servers?

What if a 15 year old runs their own personal Mastodon server? LoL this is gonna be yet another entertaining Australian government shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My guess is that small targets like the fediverse will likely escape scrutiny because it would be a lot of trouble for a tiny handful of users.

If large numbers of kids started moving here once all the big platforms are blocked, and the pearl clutchers get wind of it, then the govt might move slowly towards trying to do something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It would be great if heaps more people started using the fediverse but it would terrible if you had to use biometrics to create an account with a federated cite.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

No matter which model is adopted, the prime minister has said privacy protections will be introduced to cover any data people end up providing.

Sure. Now stop thinking of ridiculous legal aspects and fight for your privacy.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good, I think you should pass an intelligence test to go online

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

This has nothing to do with the subject. Unfortunately for all of us, you didn't have to pass any test

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I can't believe how fucked this is. Social media isn't always the healthiest thing, but banning it? I was hardly allowed to leave my house as a kid, i have no idea what i would've done if i couldn't talk to my peers online.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Maybe kids will start learning how to use a desktop properly... The Linux variety 🐸

WTF is AU government gonna about that haha

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

plans to try to

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the australian government is really out of control

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The two major parties here are always trying to out do each other when it comes to taking away digital rights.

Circa 2009 we had Labor trying to bring in a nationwide filter. That failed however since then we have had a ton of shit legislation with bi partisan support dropped on us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Anybody know if messengers fall within this definition?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Welp. I think I’ll stick to writing to the local paper if I need to sign in blood to have a public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Laughs in fedi and nostr